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World Airways seeks SCAB labor from FedEx
Message Line
January 31, 2006 This is FEDEX MEC Communications with the Message Line for January 31, 2006. Possible Scab Recruitment: The FDX MEC has been informed from highly credible sources at World Airways that FedEx is being solicited to recruit retired FedEx MD-11 pilots to be scabs. We have been told that there is coordination between World and FedEx to hire retired pilots to move World MD-11s idled by the World pilots' strike and that FedEx management may assist in the effort. It has been confirmed through conversations directly with a sampling of some of our retired pilots that FedEx is attempting to recruit pilots to move unidentified MD-11s in Africa. It is possible that these pilots are being asked to either reposition aircraft, or possibly fly them for revenue during the strike. Either of these actions would involve the crossing of a picket line established by our fellow pilots in their quest to protect their jobs from being outsourced. We are confident that our retired pilots will have the character necessary to refuse this chance to assist in breaking a strike. It is extremely tough to imagine that retirees who are being squeezed in the health care arena the way that ours are would be willing to assist in the subjugation of a fellow pilot group. We are in the process of contacting management to get their response to what part, if any, they have in this type of cooperative, concerted coercion of labor. If you hear of anyone being recruited or actually performing these kinds of services, please contact the MEC. - The truth only hurts if it should - |
Why doesn't this surprise me? The really sad thing is that they will find the people that they need to move those airplanes.
On the flip side, we keep hearing that the company will be hiring straight into the right seat of the MD-11. Maybe we can snag a few of the World folks that are locked out and get them on our property. |
I'll add a little info on this matter.
After our 30 cooling off period expired, the pilots of World Airways were able to begin self help. One of the flights was a flight from Houston to Luanda, Angola. The crew was Luanda and the union told the company that the pilots would delay the flight 12 hours as part of your self help program. The company responded by cancelling the flight. This is the good part. They kicked the pilots out of the hotel and said, "get home on your own". Now if this were Newark, you'd say OK. This is Angola folks. We have armed escorts that take us to and from the plane and guard the crew at the layover hotel. Our management team kicked them to the curb. Thank god they are all safe now. Here's the kicker. Not a single World pilot has crossed the line. Every checkairman except one (we will find out who he is shortly:eek: ) has quit and now World's shiny MD-11 is sitting on the ramp in Angola with no one to fly it home. What a shame:D |
You have 450 to choose from;)
Originally Posted by Ranger
Why doesn't this surprise me? The really sad thing is that they will find the people that they need to move those airplanes.
On the flip side, we keep hearing that the company will be hiring straight into the right seat of the MD-11. Maybe we can snag a few of the World folks that are locked out and get them on our property. |
When are our fellow Fedex pilots going to stop IGMing. I GOT MINE!! I sure hope they are unable to recruit enough, but you know some will jump at this opportunity.
Good luck World pilots!!!! |
Originally Posted by aircum
When are our fellow Fedex pilots going to stop IGMing. I GOT MINE!! I sure hope they are unable to recruit enough, but you know some will jump at this opportunity.
Good luck World pilots!!!! It seems like "IGM" is at play here too. How do the Fedex IGM guys think they "got theirs" - because Fred S. thought it would be a nice wage to pay a pilot, or because of the pilot pay bar that has been upheld by the "majors" over the years? Time for Fedex flight ops to drop the agenda and hire best qualified. |
I could not agree with you more. But unfortunately our management and chief pilot are not going to waiver on the pilots actively employed at other airlines.
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Originally Posted by aircum
I could not agree with you more. But unfortunately our management and chief pilot are not going to waiver on the pilots actively employed at other airlines.
Take me for example. I got hired here and I was actively employed at a legacy carrier. Give it time................if they really plan to hire into the right seat of the MD11 and (Airbus for that matter), it wouldn't surprise me if that rule doesn't change and soon. Doesn't it make sense to hire some folks with widebody (Glass Cockpit) International experience? Rhetorical Again if it were up to me, most of those guys would get head of the line status. |
Redeye,
Just for the record... I agree with you. I just was stating that in the past they have not waivered on their position. I agree why not take the experience that is out there and put it to good use. |
Is it legal for world to have anybody with an MD11 type to fly the aircraft out of Africa? Is there scope to protect this in World's contract?
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Originally Posted by Darby67
Is it legal for world to have anybody with an MD11 type to fly the aircraft out of Africa? Is there scope to protect this in World's contract?
Hope this was just a curiosity-type question and not a "should-I-do-it" -type question... :confused: |
Originally Posted by MD11driver
Up to World...I guess if you're current by the FAA you could scab it out. Unfortunately, right now scope is out the window with World pilots on strike...
Hope this was just a curiosity-type question and not a "should-I-do-it" -type question... :confused: Definately a curiosity question. Not typed. Not interested. |
Originally Posted by aircum
Redeye,
Just for the record... I agree with you. I just was stating that in the past they have not waivered on their position. I agree why not take the experience that is out there and put it to good use. A little over a year ago MGT's policy was not to hire any furloughed pilots from Legacy carriers! Then they started allowing the hiring USAir Furloughed pilots. Now they are hiring Furloughed pilots form all Legacy carriers....... Hopefully the trend will continue and they will begin accepting qualified interviewees from ALL walks of life........................... Email your ACP and voice your opinion................it is a stupid policy. |
Originally Posted by MD11driver
Up to World...I guess if you're current by the FAA you could scab it out. Unfortunately, right now scope is out the window with World pilots on strike...
Hope this was just a curiosity-type question and not a "should-I-do-it" -type question... :confused: Who cares if it is LEGAL??? If it walks like a SCAB, Talks like a SCAB, It is a SCAB A SCAB is a SCAB is A SCAB!:mad: |
Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The hiring policy is ever shifting. A friend was hired at fedex in Nov who was a current line holder at CAL, not furloughed.:) go figure.
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Originally Posted by boxhauler
The hiring policy is ever shifting. A friend was hired at fedex in Nov who was a current line holder at CAL, not furloughed.:) go figure.
I just don't understand FedEx Mgts hiring policy...............One would think when you can hire the most qualified.(i.e Glut of Pilots with few Carriers hiring).........you would do so. I am just a Line pilot.........what do I know:cool: |
Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Who cares if it is LEGAL???
If it walks like a SCAB, Talks like a SCAB, It is a SCAB A SCAB is a SCAB is A SCAB!:mad: |
They want to fly the plane empty out of the country to protect it.
Originally Posted by MD11driver
Up to World...I guess if you're current by the FAA you could scab it out. Unfortunately, right now scope is out the window with World pilots on strike...
Hope this was just a curiosity-type question and not a "should-I-do-it" -type question... :confused: |
Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
They want to fly the plane empty out of the country to protect it.
Sounds to me like the company should offer the World pilots a Fair deal. If they did, I am sure the World Pilots would be glad to fly the A/C out of Africa. Good Luck to the World Pilots! Shame on anyone one who would suggest or even consider scabbing for World! (or anyone else for that matter) |
Sounds like typical airline management, protect the airplane, screw the human beings.
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