CALPilotToo

I personally think we should all go out of our way to welcome these "I'll fly for anything" VA pilots. They'll never get on my jumpseat.

Pilots like this are destroying the industry. I'm getting to the point that if you are not a union pilot in the large regional or major catagories you will not get on my jumpseat.

de727ups

The problem with that is it could screw the rest of your pilot group trying to fly on that guys jumpseat for the rest of his career.

NoJoy

Denying Jumpseat privelages is a very bad idea that can bite the rest of the pilots at one's company in the butt.

spinproof

Well said!

Rubberband

I'm not so sure denying jumpseats is such a bad idea if it is coordinated through the union leadership of all union carriers. For example, a period of say 3 weeks during peak season set up much like a picket line. This may help our brothers and sisters at the LCCs get a card drive going and organize and put a stop to the fleecing of our profession. Admittedly this has never happened before but in the spirit of the recent Wall Street picket this may be an effective tactic if all participate.

SoCalGuy

You must not commute to work??

For your fellow CAL pilots that do, please rethink that decision if that's your final answer.

Thanks.

Reggie Dunlop

What is it exactly that a big chunk of your CAL cronies did for the industry? You are a hell of a stone thrower for a guy who lives in scab infested glass house. Do they ride your jumpseat? Or do you talk as big in the crew lounge as you do on the internet???

SoCalGuy

Reggie,

First let me say as a CAL pilot I am embarrassed, and I do apologize for his take. I can say without a DOUBT that his view of denying JS on this topic is shared by very few other CAL pilots, if at all.

IE...in our EWR base, I have flown with several pilots who use jetBlue as their primary means (or back up) of getting to and from work between the Florida and EWR markets on regular basis. Although I have never jumped on JB, our pilots who do so sing JB's praises time and time again for their professionalism in providing JSs for our pilots.

I am not saying any union is perfect, but for those airlines that are not unionized yet, we need to encourage them to do so in today's industry.....not turn them off to the union idea by having a few "maverick individuals" denying the JS to those pilots.

Again....my apologies.

SoCal

Eric Stratton

maybe the problem is that it is only a few maverick pilots doing this and not every union pilot.

someone said that we could screw a pilot group by denying VA a jumpseat to work. well couldn't the argument be made that VA is screwing with most pilot groups out their with those pay rates and work rules. what's the ramifications of that?

why don't we hold pilots accountable for their actions or inactions?

I have no problem with competition from other airlines. I just have a problem when that competition is between pilot groups and while he/she is possible screwing me i'm suppose to take it and say "thank you sir, may I have another"

de727ups

"someone said that we could screw a pilot group by denying VA a jumpseat to work."

That was me, thanks.

"I just have a problem when that competition is between pilot groups and while he/she is possible screwing me i'm suppose to take it and say "thank you sir, may I have another"

Or, it could be a chance to explain your point of view on unions.....