I see, becuase you are at a "REAL" airline you know all there is to know about UNIONS/Labor law, how the hell can a regional F/O who happens to be a Rep teach you anything. Seems like you need to be educated becuase you can't have a grassroots campaign to stop picking up open time. Do I think its a great idea???? yeah I do. I am on your side believe me, I'm just beyond tired of Labor not having any authority to do anything, such as not picking up open time. As far as the uniform, I agree you can't get respect if you look like a slob but unfortunately that won't do a thing.


Something as small as your "suggestion" to not pick up open time, on this website could be used by some scum lawyer, you know that as well as I, thats all I was saying

So you're agreeing with me on what are proving to be valid points, but would rather adopt an attitude of resignation or indifference to them? Because labor's hands are tied on so many issues, we have to spread the word amongst ourselves. I would rather take the chance that doing something DOES make a difference, rather than assume it will not and do nothing which obviously yields predictable results. I am glad to hear you are frustrated, and that you in fact care. Lead by example!

And please amigo, it's because, not becuase. On days I'm not acting as uniform cop, it's spelling nazi.:p

Now, let's leave this thread for what it is: CAL updates, not my personal soapbox.

P.S. I'll take my chances with the lawyers hunting me down on APC. I'm about to marry one. So yes, I do know a bit about labor law. And yes, I know you're related to one.

Excellent Idea! & thanks for suggesting it.

That's why I'm here. Information as it is presented to me, and suggestions to go along with it.

0 Infractions this year and last. :)

I think I am infraction free this year as well :).

But back to topic

You might want to get some info on the 49 individual DAL pilots who were sued, along with DALPA for doing exactly what you mentioned. It has happened before and cost a lot of time and money to defend. Just a head's up brah.

I'm with you on the uniform issue. If nothing else, we should take pride in our appearance as well as our profession no matter how bad things are in the industry. Chances are if you look like a dirtbag you probably aren't far from it.

So, aside from all the rest of the stuff on here, thanks for the update on the CAL hiring situation. I was in the 22 April class that was nixed. As of right now I haven't heard anything, and am still wondering what will happen. I assume I enter a pool, and hopefully hiring will pick up in the fall sometime. I still feel like I got kicked in the...

Anyone else in my shoes? I am very curious to see how many are in the pool and what anyone else knows. Please, keep the updates coming and again, thanks for the nice update LifeNtheFstlne.

Pilots should not pick up open time. Go home on your days off. It's not illeagal not to work on your days off or suggest it to others. Every trip you pick up means one less trip for a potential new hire. Take your vacation too. While I'm at it, if you're over 60- retire. I'd like to see us hire 300 former Aloha pilots than to have 300 scabs around for 5 more years.

If you don't want to wear the uniform properly, find another job. Jacket buttoned and hat on properly (not like a bus driver). We are professional pilots. I was embarassed by some of my peers on the Wallstreet picket line. I really enjoyed the "light gray" overcoats.:rolleyes: I realize 20-30 years will fade a black jacket to gray, so just replace it. We all took this job knowing that we wore uniforms, so there are no surprises. Just wear it and wear it correctly. I personally hate hats and ties, but I wear them (in view of the public). :D

Dannolars, sorry to hear about your misfortune. You will be hard pressed to find many others more vocal than me about our need for additional pilots at this time. Crew coordination is backed into a corner daily due to staffing issues. We will see what happens. I'm sure Otto will agree, some of this is not just economics but also Section 6 posturing as well. I've asked around to some pilots that have quite a bit more longevity than I do, and historically the company has been quite good at honoring job offers and class dates that have been moved. I'm sure that when classes and/or interviews resume your offer will stand. Of course by then you could be long gone and flying somewhere else. Then when I get furloughed and come there, you'll be senior to me. :eek: Don't you love this industry?!

Question for the tech savvy computer geeks out there: As you FMS users know, some software programs offer suggestions for optimum/recommended/max altitude. Naturally, we attempt to abide by those and save some coins on fuel and/or time. Of course it takes into account a few variables and is fairly dynamic. Would it be possible to write a software program that continually looks at ALL the variables and presents a lateral course representation on a map display of suggested routing? Obviously the software programming for the vertical axis works fine, so it would be great to know that asking for direct XYZ would make a difference laterally without trial and error. This is poorly worded, I know. But does anyone follow me? One would surmise that coupled with ADS-B (eventually) that type of graphical depiction would save.... I dunno...money --> our jobs. Lastly, I've been scouring the news lately for any word of more pressure being put on the FAA to improve the technology of the ATC system. I figured by now the airlines would be screaming for change with oil being what it is. I don't consider capping NYC area departures an all encompassing solution, but can't find info. on what progress is being made to upgrade the system. Ahhh the things you think of while sucking down fuel in holding trying to get into EWR. :confused: