now that was funny!

For an Airbus, hell yeah...

Then you just possibly know very little about the 320 FBW or the flight envelope... or the accident at Mulhouse or how it evolved.

Does it make any difference? The airplane still wound up in the trees.

Yeah we didn't dwell on it too much when I did my type ride in the 320.



My comment (and the other guy's) were jokes. Relax. I'd take the comfort and systems/avionics integration of an Airbus over a Boeing (that I've flown: 757 and 767s) any day of the week.

I've done that in a Lear 24, but I couldn't imagine it in an Airbus. Nothing like seeing the AI indicating 40 degrees nose up.

I'd love to fly an airplane that effectively takes the pilot out of the equation.

We had a very low level windshear incident in Juneau a little over a year ago that would have resulted in a crash had we been airbus drivers rather than Boeing pilots. The Boeing allows the pilot full flight control authority from FL to touchdown.

There is no substitute for a Boeing.

What does a boeing do beyond allowing the pilot to have full power and shove the stick full back and ride the shaker all the way out? That's what the airbus does. I'm not going to stall my way out of a w/s encounter.....


A w/s encounter and that 'bus doing 1500 trees per minute in France back in the 80s are two totally separate issues. If you shove the power levers forward and pull back on the stick, the airbus gives you full power and a climb, every time.

Lots of good stuff about a Boeing and lots of good stuff about the FBW 'bus. But in a windshear, gimme the 'bus where I just yank back and get MAX AOA. I don't hunt for it. I don't try to ride the buffet near the stall. Just MAX AOA (as in their ain't nothing left).

Just wondering.. did you repeat the conditions in a 'bus or 'bus simulator or is your comment about it would have been a crash in the 'bus speculation?

agree, but both have nothing on the MD11's systems and avionics suite.. I found that with the exception of the fbw laws.. the MD (which also had envelope protections of it's owns) had far better systems integration, Autoflight, and FMGS. Sadly it wasn't kept up to date like on the bus as the program died in the early 90s.

As one example.. in a windsheer the MD would recover with autopilot and do a far better job than you could with manual control. the Bus required autopilot disconnect.. the list goes on with regards to fully automated flight and systems.


But I agree, the above demo is pretty much a boiler plate standard airbus air show demo.