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SoCalGuy 06-19-2008 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by gufusu (Post 407724)
Is that you Jay Pierce?

Nah....just echo's of the "former".....Jay Panarello :cool:

SoCalGuy 06-19-2008 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Myboyblue (Post 407751)
No doubt everyone is losing money but last qtr CAL lost 80 compared to UAL's 5??, 5 times the lost. I haven't seen anything in the last 12 weeks to show anything will be different this qtr. I hope my post didn't sound like any ill will toward UAL, I hope the best for everyone. I find it amazing Tilton is still at the helm.

Try almost 7x's that amount....$542 Million vs the $80 Million in the first Q. You think that is bad, how about we revisit these numbers on both sides in the 2 or 3Q....both up coming loses will be staggering I bet....not only with these two companies, but the other legacy carriers as well.

I agree with you. How is it that a "Tilton" stays at the helm?? That I would like to have the answer. This industry seems to be one of the few that only promotes incompetence within. The more you screw up, the higher you get promoted....how is that?? Well, when your on top....ie Mr Glenn Tilton....I guess you would have no where else to rise within! I don't get the logic, let's just keep pumping the CEO with more $$ as he continues to run the airline down hill. With that, who on the board keeps this clown around??

All that I can say is that I hope Larry and his management team do not eat from the same retard sandwich platter.

Daytripper 06-19-2008 07:04 PM

Did CAL just get a couple hundred mil from some credit card branding deal?
They floated some stock today too. Lufthansa has been pushing. CAL reiterated today, no merger. Somethings up.

SoCalGuy 06-20-2008 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 407817)
Did CAL just get a couple hundred mil from some credit card branding deal?
They floated some stock today too. Lufthansa has been pushing. CAL reiterated today, no merger. Somethings up.

Interesting point....missed that intel on most of the "company news" blurbs.....That is a chunk of change.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080612/conti...look.html?.v=2

CALPilotToo 06-20-2008 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 407989)
Interesting point....missed that intel on most of the "company news" blurbs.....That is a chunk of change.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080612/conti...look.html?.v=2

Just enough to cover the management bonuses is all. We won't see a penny of that. Not this whimpy pilot group. If anyone out there thinks this pilot group will force management to do anything think again. Too many lovers of airplanes that will do anything just to say they are pilots and too many scabs or pilots that think like scabs.

gufusu 06-20-2008 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by CALPilotToo (Post 408423)
Just enough to cover the management bonuses is all. We won't see a penny of that. Not this whimpy pilot group. If anyone out there thinks this pilot group will force management to do anything think again. Too many lovers of airplanes that will do anything just to say they are pilots and too many scabs or pilots that think like scabs.

Things are changing for the better in the LEC 170! If you're based in EWR be at the next meeting on the 26th.

757Driver 06-21-2008 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by CALPilotToo (Post 408423)
Just enough to cover the management bonuses is all. We won't see a penny of that. Not this whimpy pilot group. If anyone out there thinks this pilot group will force management to do anything think again. Too many lovers of airplanes that will do anything just to say they are pilots and too many scabs or pilots that think like scabs.

Sad but very true. We have a vocal minority who is ignored by our MEC/LEC and until the so called killer B's truly outnumber the scabs and sympathizers, we'll go nowhere.


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