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bender 06-30-2008 01:51 PM

Attention United Pilots
 
Just received this through company email. Jumpseat wars are no bueno.

Quote:

From Jumpseat Coordinator

Important Letter to United Pilots

June 30, 2008

To United Airlines pilots:

On behalf of the Jumpseat Committees representing all of the carriers flying as United Express, welcome aboard. Unfortunately, this letter has been provided to you because you will likely be affected by a difficult decision, reluctantly arrived at by the United Express (UAX) pilots. Over the last couple of years, United Airlines (UAL) has made changes to the gate jumpseating and priority software programs. Several of these changes have adversely affected not only the UAX pilots, but also the UAL pilots, as well. There is widespread confusion and frustration amongst many of the pilots regarding how the gate computer sorts priorities for jumpseat requests. Based upon the UAX agreement tables, jumpseat requests on UAX flights are supposed to be processed like this:

1. On their own flights, UAX pilots are sorted first, in order of their seniority.
2. UAL pilots and “other” UAX pilots are sorted next, in order of their check-in.
3. Non UAL/UAX pilots (“offline pilots”) are then sorted, in order of their check-in.

HOWEVER, the current software being used by UAL does NOT sort jumpseat requests in this order. Instead, all jumpseat requests are sorted as if the flight were a mainline UAL flight. This means that UAX pilots are being bumped by UAL pilots on their own UAX flights. The computer software also sorts some UAX pilots as if they were offline pilots, even on their own flights. Despite nine (9) months of repeated appeals to UAL management, and despite the fact that a minor software change would solve this issue (simply change the computers to recognize the carriers’ flight number) UAX carriers have recently been told that UAL will not fix this blatant degradation of our jumpseat agreements because to do so would not generate revenue for UAL. This position is untenable.

We have now sent a detailed letter to UALPA’s MEC, addressing these very important issues, and we have provided UALPA with specific examples of where UAL has made non-revenue generating changes to the gate software. The UAX pilots have respectfully requested that the gate jumpseat software be fixed within thirty (30) days. Regrettably, if UAL does not fix the jumpseat software within thirty (30) days, UAX pilots will be left with no other choice but to deny all UAL pilots any requests for the jumpseat, regardless of aircraft tail-colors beginning 08/31/08.

On behalf of all UAX pilots, we sincerely hope that we will not be forced to deny any UAL pilot a ride, as we are mindful of the fact that many UAL pilots will be negatively impacted. To that end, we are simply asking that you immediately call or email your MEC to let them know how important your UAX commute is, and to help us all obtain a fair and just resolution. Thank you for your professionalism and active cooperation.

Signed, the pilots of:

Chautauqua Airlines
Colgan Airlines
Go Jets Airlines
Mesa Air Group
Shuttle America
SkyWest Airlines

JoeyMeatballs 06-30-2008 01:54 PM

I wonder how many will actually follow this....why should United Pilots have to pay for the inadequacy of the computer system in place for jumpseating? However rules are rules and jumpseating priority is jumpseating priority....................another reason they should not have given up on scope

FDXer 06-30-2008 02:12 PM

Long thread on this in the regionals...

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...8-31-08-a.html

RockBottom 06-30-2008 02:14 PM

Jumpseats should never be used as a tool in political or company disputes. Especially pitting one pilot group against another! I can understand the UA Express pilots' frustration, but this act is very childish, IMO.

Thinking man 06-30-2008 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockBottom (Post 415721)
Jumpseats should never be used as a tool in political or company disputes. Especially pitting one pilot group against another! I can understand the UA Express pilots' frustration, but this act is very childish, IMO.

This isn't really political as much as it is about reciprocity and honoring the jumpseat agreements that are in place.

UAALPA was the one that made the policy change to give their pilots priority over UAX pilots on UAX not UA management.

UAX Jumpseat coordinators have worked for over a year to reverse this policy, including memo to gate agents and Captains checking the gate. And, still UAX pilots are being left at the gate while UAL pilots aren't. UAL MEC continues to fail to even address the issue. So as long as UAALPA refuses to work with the UAX carriers this is something that they have brought upon themselves.

That is why this letter was sent out.

drvannostren 06-30-2008 02:32 PM

Whatta bunch a chumps!
 
Since the union can't get a damn thing done with management they need to resort to fighting amongst themselves?

Here is an idea, how about keeping the mainline flying on UAX routes and parking RJs instead of putting 950 UAL guys on the street.

embpilot 06-30-2008 02:40 PM

re
 
Since when do you other UAX carriers want to be grouped with GOjet scumbags? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! BTW I noticed TSA is not on the list of UAX carriers that sent the letter.

pokey9554 06-30-2008 03:15 PM

As a CA on a UAX carrier, everybody is welcome in my jumpseat anytime. Even on 8/31. Just bring your sense of humor.

JoeyMeatballs 06-30-2008 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drvannostren (Post 415731)
Since the union can't get a damn thing done with management they need to resort to fighting amongst themselves?

Here is an idea, how about keeping the mainline flying on UAX routes and parking RJs instead of putting 950 UAL guys on the street.

IF ONLY MAINLINE GUYS DIDNT GIVE UP SCOPE

Invisible Man 06-30-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 415771)
IF ONLY MAINLINE GUYS DIDNT GIVE UP SCOPE

If only the commuters wouldn't fly for nothing.
It's the chicken and the egg argument.
IM


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