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tomgoodman 03-12-2006 10:33 AM

Computer in command
 

Originally Posted by dckozak
What technology is that?? Having computer programmers fly the airplane instead of pilots??:eek:


Well, at least the pilot is allowed to SUGGEST flght control movements to the computer! :p

rickair7777 03-12-2006 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Linebacker35
The A340 should be just as advanced as the 777. I have not had the chance to see the 777 in action though. What kind of new systems does the 777 have? Hopefuly I will be able to get in one of their sims as soon as AirCanada starts recieving their 777 orders.
But I still think Airbus is the winner, boeing is just starting to perfect the technology airbus developed in the mid 80's.


What about the super-advanced tecnology of having major structural components remain attached to the fuselage...
AA 587
Air Transat 961
A380 (the wings snapped off at LESS than ultimate load...)

rickair7777 03-12-2006 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg52
If you cant fly a plane with the loss of 4 engines on one side, you dont know how to fly!!!;)

I've heard about you buff guys and the deadly seven engine approach:rolleyes:

Linebacker35 03-12-2006 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by dckozak
What technology is that?? Having computer programmers fly the airplane instead of pilots??:eek:


You can have the computer fly it or YOU can fly it. Like the info it gives the pilot is unmatched. You could land a manual CAT 3(not that your allowed to), because of all the extra info it provideds. You can manualy fly an airbus with the winshield covered up and still be able to land it if you wanted. I even tried a landing without looking out the front, just used the screens and it was dead on. The 767 didnt even come close the the flying ability of the A320.

rickair7777 03-12-2006 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Linebacker35
You can have the computer fly it or YOU can fly it. Like the info it gives the pilot is unmatched. You could landed a manual CAT 3(not that your allowed to) in the sim, because of all the extra info it provideds. You can manualy fly an airbus with the winshield covered up and still be able to land it if you wanted. I even tried a landing without looking out the front, just used the screens and it was dead on. The 767 didnt even come close the the flying ability of the A320.

The 777 (and presumably the 787) does all that kind of stuff too. But you can press a button and manually override a Boeing. You cannot override the bus; ultimately IT makes the decisions, and you're along for the ride.

Linebacker35 03-12-2006 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777
What about the super-advanced tecnology of having major structural components remain attached to the fuselage...
AA 587
Air Transat 961
A380 (the wings snapped off at LESS than ultimate load...)

Yah that is true. I was just refering to the flight deck and flight control systems though.

Linebacker35 03-12-2006 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777
The 777 (and presumably the 787) does all that kind of stuff too. But you can press a button and manually override a Boeing. You cannot override the bus; ultimately IT makes the decisions, and you're along for the ride.

Yah, ive never gotten the chance to fly the 777 sim. Hopefully soon I will.
The only real limitation I ran into on the 320 was when I did a rapid decent off of a pressure failure and the stupid speed restriction kicked in. Other than that it was just numerous cautions and warnings for the limitations and programing. It still let you do preety much whatever you wanted, just constantly would give you warnings.

calcapt 03-12-2006 12:05 PM

Does the airbus allow you to roll into a 45 or maybe a 70 degree bank? I have heard (having never flown one) that the computer limits what it sees as acceptable limits. My personal opinion is that if I as a captain, decide I need a 70 degree bank to avoid something I don't want to have to negotiate with a computer, particularly a french computer. Of course I see the logic of protecting the aircraft from idiots as well - and we all know there are some out there.

ryane946 03-12-2006 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Linebacker35
The airbus was just amazing to fly, I absolutly loved flying it. I found it far superior to the 767.

I think it is important to remember that the 767 is close to 10 years older than the A320.

I also have something to say about the stick. I learned to fly with a stick (gliders and tail wheel), but come on, this is an airliner with 150 people on board, not a video game.

Rama 03-12-2006 01:29 PM

The difference is that you fly the Boeing while the Airbus flies you.


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