Requesting advice from the majors to a Navy guy
03-16-2006, 11:21 AM
#31
done, gone skiing
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Been there, rather be here
Originally Posted by 2dotslow
See Rio more than I like, actually. Last 5 months have taken us to Monaco (me), UAE, Kailua Kona (me), Nadi (Fiji) (me), Cabo (me), Rio (me), Stockholm, London, Dublin, and the usual assortment of nice US destinations...Scottsdale, Augusta, Monterey, Vail, Naples, etc. Tomorrow I'm off to Calgary, Sunday to my hometown of Tampa, 6 days. Guess my point was we usually have a bit more than an 18 hour layover at these places. Get lots of golf, eating and drinking in. We ain't flyin' Citation 2s. FWIW, also get our share of HTS, PIT, MSY, IAH, etc...
). The problem is, 1. you don't know till you know if its going to be that good, 2. Tomorrow, depending on the BOD, the new CEO, or the new austerity plan (hate those bean counters 
) it could all change. 3. You could make the mistake of winning at golf (" dam ball went in when I tried to miss...") or P** off the wrong future VP. Sure the airlines are no panacea, but at least its a less political playing field from a pilots prospective. And some layovers are not so bad (currently looking at the mountains around Anchorage ).
03-16-2006, 12:04 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by dckozak
And some layovers are not so bad (currently looking at the mountains around Anchorage ).
03-16-2006, 12:24 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
A-H-H-H-H. . you’ve got THAT right! Please give my regards to the crew at the “F Street” . . and raise a flaggon . .or two . . to those who have flown West!
03-16-2006, 04:41 PM
#34
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Stay, We are at a cross roads with uncertainty. I am at a LLC & we just heard we will slow down hiring a bit. Reason- uncertainty with fuel & whats going on with Iran/Iraq, Nigeria etc. If you only got 6 years for a mil pension you will be happy in the end to suck it up to & wait. As for the rest of us, many people I know are starting pt businesses on the side just in case..
Goodluck!
Goodluck!
03-18-2006, 10:56 AM
#35
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Gents-
Again, thanks for the great advice from all sides. At this point, the job at FedEx does seem like the golden Willy Wonka candy wrapper. And the flying in the reserves for 10+ years is better than flying to 20 and retiring. With friends at Fed Ex, I feel like I might have a decent shot. After talking with my wife (who also really appreciates all of the insightful responses), we are leaning towards pressing on to 20 and taking jobs that are more fun (ie flying on the east coast) vice on the “command track” (ie non-flying joint tours). It is the more conservative route, and gives up plenty of seniority, but it also adds a layer of security that reassures us. The TAR/FTS is definitely a great way to go, but I am too senior now. And getting out to get hired and getting back in is a little too risky. I still have two months before I have to drop the resignation papers, so I have a little time to contemplate the pros and cons. Thanks for your opinions. I would love to hear from anyone else weighing in the subject. In the meantime, I must go enjoy another Kilkenny’s in lovely Dubai before heading back out into the gulf for another round on the Reagan. Cheers.
Again, thanks for the great advice from all sides. At this point, the job at FedEx does seem like the golden Willy Wonka candy wrapper. And the flying in the reserves for 10+ years is better than flying to 20 and retiring. With friends at Fed Ex, I feel like I might have a decent shot. After talking with my wife (who also really appreciates all of the insightful responses), we are leaning towards pressing on to 20 and taking jobs that are more fun (ie flying on the east coast) vice on the “command track” (ie non-flying joint tours). It is the more conservative route, and gives up plenty of seniority, but it also adds a layer of security that reassures us. The TAR/FTS is definitely a great way to go, but I am too senior now. And getting out to get hired and getting back in is a little too risky. I still have two months before I have to drop the resignation papers, so I have a little time to contemplate the pros and cons. Thanks for your opinions. I would love to hear from anyone else weighing in the subject. In the meantime, I must go enjoy another Kilkenny’s in lovely Dubai before heading back out into the gulf for another round on the Reagan. Cheers.
03-21-2006, 09:21 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
A-H-H-H-H. . you’ve got THAT right! Please give my regards to the crew at the “F Street” . . and raise a flaggon . .or two . . to those who have flown West!
Humpy's Rules!
Course Darwin's Theory is'nt bad either.
03-21-2006, 10:49 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by dckozak
Sounds like you got a great Corp job, but how many are that good. I have no doubt that the best corp flying beats any airline job, great pay,better days off, golf with the boss (do you ever win?? ). The problem is, 1. you don't know till you know if its going to be that good, 2. Tomorrow, depending on the BOD, the new CEO, or the new austerity plan (hate those bean counters ) it could all change. 3. You could make the mistake of winning at golf (" dam ball went in when I tried to miss...") or P** off the wrong future VP.
Sure the airlines are no panacea, but at least its a less political playing field from a pilots prospective. And some layovers are not so bad (currently looking at the mountains around Anchorage ).
). The problem is, 1. you don't know till you know if its going to be that good, 2. Tomorrow, depending on the BOD, the new CEO, or the new austerity plan (hate those bean counters ) it could all change. 3. You could make the mistake of winning at golf (" dam ball went in when I tried to miss...") or P** off the wrong future VP. Sure the airlines are no panacea, but at least its a less political playing field from a pilots prospective. And some layovers are not so bad (currently looking at the mountains around Anchorage ).
Not getting into a pi$$ing contest with you, but just as there are "few" good corporate jobs, in the big picture, there are few "good airline jobs".
03-21-2006, 04:04 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by thedude113
Gents-
Again, thanks for the great advice from all sides. At this point, the job at FedEx does seem like the golden Willy Wonka candy wrapper. And the flying in the reserves for 10+ years is better than flying to 20 and retiring. With friends at Fed Ex, I feel like I might have a decent shot. After talking with my wife (who also really appreciates all of the insightful responses), we are leaning towards pressing on to 20 and taking jobs that are more fun (ie flying on the east coast) vice on the “command track” (ie non-flying joint tours). It is the more conservative route, and gives up plenty of seniority, but it also adds a layer of security that reassures us. The TAR/FTS is definitely a great way to go, but I am too senior now. And getting out to get hired and getting back in is a little too risky. I still have two months before I have to drop the resignation papers, so I have a little time to contemplate the pros and cons. Thanks for your opinions. I would love to hear from anyone else weighing in the subject. In the meantime, I must go enjoy another Kilkenny’s in lovely Dubai before heading back out into the gulf for another round on the Reagan. Cheers.
Again, thanks for the great advice from all sides. At this point, the job at FedEx does seem like the golden Willy Wonka candy wrapper. And the flying in the reserves for 10+ years is better than flying to 20 and retiring. With friends at Fed Ex, I feel like I might have a decent shot. After talking with my wife (who also really appreciates all of the insightful responses), we are leaning towards pressing on to 20 and taking jobs that are more fun (ie flying on the east coast) vice on the “command track” (ie non-flying joint tours). It is the more conservative route, and gives up plenty of seniority, but it also adds a layer of security that reassures us. The TAR/FTS is definitely a great way to go, but I am too senior now. And getting out to get hired and getting back in is a little too risky. I still have two months before I have to drop the resignation papers, so I have a little time to contemplate the pros and cons. Thanks for your opinions. I would love to hear from anyone else weighing in the subject. In the meantime, I must go enjoy another Kilkenny’s in lovely Dubai before heading back out into the gulf for another round on the Reagan. Cheers.
Dude,
PM me if you get the chance. I just recently retired and would be glad to relay what I went through.
Have you considered China Lake for shore duty? Great flying at VX-31 and VX-9.
03-21-2006, 09:33 PM
#40
done, gone skiing
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
How many airlines jobs are that good? How do you know if an airline job is going to be any good
Still better odds than corporate.
Originally Posted by dojetdriver
............... But I can garauntee at a good corporate job the guy will not have to deal with 2 years of stalled contract negotiations.
Well if you don't negotiate your terms of course it won't take two years, just see the chief and get told what your pay and terms are....or ,"which way is the door??"
Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Not getting into a pi$$ing contest with you, but just as there are "few" good corporate jobs, in the big picture, there are few "good airline jobs".
Even if you take it as fact there are "few" good airline jobs and "few" good corporate jobs, there are lots more jobs with those "few" good airlines than the "few" good corporate jobs.
