2009 Hiring Outlook...
 

I know SWA is going to be active for the next 18 months, and I am one of 40,000 applicants standing in line, but I was curious if anyone else was going to be doing any hiring anytime soon. Any good news out there? I know this is a tough time to make the leap from corporate to 121...

I will gladly trade you.

I wouldnt even think about jumpin ship to 121 anytime soon. I suggest fly as much as u can and make lots of dough while u can. (Like Life says " I would gladly trade you)

Im trying to make the move now while I am still single with no kids, as opposed to sucking the life out of my family and dragging them through the mud so I can sit on reserve for a decade ;)
But seriously, I am curious if any of the majors are going to be doing anything besides throwing pilots out on the curb next year...

Heard jetBlue is getting 8 E190's in 2009, hiring to begin in January.

I have always wanted to fly for 121 airlines but it does not seem worth it anymore. I cannot afford to go back to making less then 40 grand again and having to commute or live in an overpriced city. SWA is about the only 121 passenger hauler that I would ever consider but lets face it their are thousands of RJ captains just chomping at the bit to get on. I do enjoy the Charter side of flying much more then I thought I would, its just fun flying and it may be more stable then the airlines. I say it maybe more stable because my flying has went down substantially since last year. In my opinion the way to make it in this career is to make as much money as possible and keep moving up in pay not taking a cut for 5 years just so you get to fly cool equipment. This seems to be getting harder to accomplish.

Interesting about Jetblue, whats the story with DAL, I read that they might become active in a few months, any truth to this?

Maybe. Some are saying hiring to begin this fall (octoberish), others are saying springtime. I know we are short on the -88 but overstaffed on the 75/76 domestic. Might see displacements rather than new hires on the -88.

Doug Masters....you were great in Iron Eagle!!

He is how I learned to shoot the Maverick on the ground, or was it the Hades bomb? My Iron Eagle 3-1 knowledge is sort of weak.

"Dang it Chappy, I'm doing it my way!"

freight is great!

My corporate overlords will be hiring on in 2009 as well. Not sure how many people here that helps, but there it is.

*Edit: Domestically, I know Allegiant Air is taking on more. A buddy of mine just got on thanks to their RDM-AZA route they're opening in the near future. Poor bastard's so desperate he's willing to take on a Douglas Death Tube.

Just curious, where are we short on the Maddog? In NYC, we have 30 something reserve guys. It seems like overkill since I think theres only 50 or so regular guys in category.

-Fatty

ATL's been short, at least through this month. I flew 89 hours for July, on reserve (I do yellow slip, though).

I guess it makes sense. Almost everytime I was called out on reserve, I deadheaded down to Atlanta. Atlanta Maddogs have some very nice trips.

I didn't mind NY flying but didn't like the day trips. I would much rather get a 3 or 4 day and forget about reserve for a bit. Your right the only multiday trips in NYC are modified ATL trips. Seems like you would want to run ATL fat and deadhead to NY since it's 3 times the size. What do I know though??

World Airways!
121 pax and freight, 40 to 50k first year, 70k second year, awesome layovers (sometimes not so awesome) and home basing

Anyone know the mins/competitive mins at world? the link on APC doesnt work.

Thanks for the info guys, I have stuff in at Delta as well as SWA so we will see... Maybe I can win them over with my good looks and charm if they call me within the next 10 years... :) Good luck to everyone!

aren't World guys gone 20 days per month?:eek:

hawaiian is pretty much done with hiring for now. but we should be hiring again in late '09, early '10 ish when the leased a330s come in. however, there are a lot of aloha airline bruddahs on the street wanting the job. approximately 70% of the classes have been aloha guys so if you arent one of them, its quite tough to get in. good luck.

Virgin America is hiring.:)

Sometimes. Sometimes we work 10 days a month and it is even possible to have to do 36 in a row....very rare though. It's hard to give an average lately because of all the new (old) airframes. AMC, new contracts, hiring and back-logged training.

Does anyone know how to apply to World? I can't find it on the website.

Unless you are not happy doing what you are doing now, I would think really hard about jumping into any 121 ops now.

Yea I know... When I started flying 10 years ago the goal was to get into 121, but things happen and I have been very fortunate to have really good jobs in corporate aviation. However, acting like a chauffeur and camping out at FBO's has gotten old so if the right door opens, I am ready to take that chance. Maybe I just need to recharge my batteries, who knows...

Being an ex 121 guy myself I can't imagine why anyone would want to go into the airlines at a time like this. My worst day corporate is better than my best day at the airlines.

Excel,

Have you ever considered 121 freight/cargo/packages. I know its not for everyone but wasn't sure if you have considered it?

Was it regional or mainline? I never flew corporate but I can tell you that my 2nd worst day at DAL (1st was Nov. 1, 2001 when the furlough hit) beats anything I did while flying at the regionals or freight.

Yeah even if you're local its hard to get in there... I have a bunch of friends that interviewed at HAL in May 2008 and still haven't been given notice of whether they passed their interviews... they have a messy interview process since HR decided to take it over and push the HAL pilots out of the hiring process.

We are only getting 4 E190 next year, the word down in our training center 59 to 70 new hires 2nd Q next year, however out of this numbers 59 are been recall from the pool.