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jdt30 09-10-2008 12:16 PM

CAL pilots pay furloughed pilots insurance
 
MEC Special Notice 9-10-08 - Pilot group solidly passes furlough assessment‏ From: [email protected] Sent: Wed 9/10/08 7:35 PM To: calmec-fastread ([email protected])

Security scan upon download Attachments: 02-0808 - Medical Insurance Reimbursement for the Furloughed Continental Pilots.pdf (13.7 KB), Assessment Example.pdf (13.7 KB)



ALPA: The Pilots Union




In a show of support and concern for their fellow pilots, the pilot group has passed, by an overwhelming two-thirds majority of those who voted, the proposed Medical Insurance Reimbursement for the Furloughed Continental Pilots assessment. Voting on the assessment closed this morning at 10:00 ET. This assessment will be used to reimburse furloughed Continental pilots for health insurance premiums. In funding this assessment, the pilots have shown that their concern for the welfare of their fellow pilots far outweighs that of management, which continues to deny coverage to our pilots during their first six months of employment.



The first assessment of 0.25% will apply to your Oct. 16 paycheck. Funds remaining in the Continental Furlough Assistance Fund upon dissolution will be refunded to the pilots who paid the assessment, on a pro rata basis. For an example of how dues and the assessment are applied, please see the attached PDF file “Assessment Example.pdf.”



In accordance with the furlough process, furloughed pilots on Continental’s health insurance plan will continue to be covered under Continental’s plan until the end of the month following their furlough date (Oct. 31, 2008 for pilots furloughed during the month of September, for example).



For more information about the furlough assessment to reimburse health insurance premiums, click on the attached PDF file of the resolution that was passed by the MEC. More information about the program will be provided to pilots on furlough via blastmail, the calalpa.org Web site and other communication.


ALPA: The Pilots Union


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WorldDC10 09-10-2008 12:45 PM

It is pretty sad that 1/3 of those who voted said no!

shogun 09-10-2008 12:51 PM

Well Spirit had the same vote but the majority of the pilot group voted it down.

Now THAT is pretty sad.....

alvrb211 09-10-2008 02:20 PM

True!

However, kudos to the guys who took the time to care about their own.

AL

WarEagle28 09-10-2008 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 459288)
MEC Special Notice 9-10-08 - Pilot group solidly passes furlough assessment‏ From: [email protected] Sent: Wed 9/10/08 7:35 PM To: calmec-fastread ([email protected])

Security scan upon download Attachments: 02-0808 - Medical Insurance Reimbursement for the Furloughed Continental Pilots.pdf (13.7 KB), Assessment Example.pdf (13.7 KB)



ALPA: The Pilots Union




In a show of support and concern for their fellow pilots, the pilot group has passed, by an overwhelming two-thirds majority of those who voted, the proposed Medical Insurance Reimbursement for the Furloughed Continental Pilots assessment. Voting on the assessment closed this morning at 10:00 ET. This assessment will be used to reimburse furloughed Continental pilots for health insurance premiums. In funding this assessment, the pilots have shown that their concern for the welfare of their fellow pilots far outweighs that of management, which continues to deny coverage to our pilots during their first six months of employment.



The first assessment of 0.25% will apply to your Oct. 16 paycheck. Funds remaining in the Continental Furlough Assistance Fund upon dissolution will be refunded to the pilots who paid the assessment, on a pro rata basis. For an example of how dues and the assessment are applied, please see the attached PDF file “Assessment Example.pdf.”



In accordance with the furlough process, furloughed pilots on Continental’s health insurance plan will continue to be covered under Continental’s plan until the end of the month following their furlough date (Oct. 31, 2008 for pilots furloughed during the month of September, for example).



For more information about the furlough assessment to reimburse health insurance premiums, click on the attached PDF file of the resolution that was passed by the MEC. More information about the program will be provided to pilots on furlough via blastmail, the calalpa.org Web site and other communication.


ALPA: The Pilots Union


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From a furloughee...THANK YOU for caring about us. I'll stay furloughed as long as it takes to get a GREAT CONTRACT!!! DON'T GIVE IN!!!!!!!!

jdt30 09-10-2008 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by WarEagle28 (Post 459351)
From a furloughee...THANK YOU for caring about us. I'll stay furloughed as long as it takes to get a GREAT CONTRACT!!! DON'T GIVE IN!!!!!!!!

I think the tide maybe changing at CAL. I hope you guys are back soon. Two thirds of this pilot group is sick of the same ole shat.

I need to rephrase the above statement. Two thirds of the pilot group that care enough to vote are sick and tired.

757Driver 09-10-2008 03:14 PM

Did the same thing when we furloughed for 9/11 so its nothing new. I think it passed at a higher percentage rate back then though.

poor pilot 09-10-2008 03:25 PM

The ones that voted no must have thought they were going to "save the compny". boy oh boy.

jdt30 09-10-2008 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 459382)
Did the same thing when we furloughed for 9/11 so its nothing new. I think it passed at a higher percentage rate back then though.

I know it's not new, but I'm just glad to see a majority of the votes actually go towards something worthwhile.

I flew with a Capt. who voted no for insurance after 9-11. His reason "Why should I subsidize someone else's career choice. I knew what I was doing when I chose this career." He had crossed the picket line in 83.

whaledriver1 09-10-2008 06:56 PM

Any a$$ &*%$! flying high time or picking up extra trips? Sure hope not...

Airhoss 09-10-2008 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 459398)
I know it's not new, but I'm just glad to see a majority of the votes actually go towards something worthwhile.

I flew with a Capt. who voted no for insurance after 9-11. His reason "Why should I subsidize someone else's career choice. I knew what I was doing when I chose this career." He had crossed the picket line in 83.

Once a SCAB ALWAYS A SCAB!

757Driver 09-11-2008 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 459398)
I know it's not new, but I'm just glad to see a majority of the votes actually go towards something worthwhile.

I flew with a Capt. who voted no for insurance after 9-11. His reason "Why should I subsidize someone else's career choice. I knew what I was doing when I chose this career." He had crossed the picket line in 83.

Doesn't surprise me one bit.

Complete scum.

flybynuts 09-11-2008 06:01 AM

Hopefully, the guy is 59 or 60 and only getting older.

Ottopilot 09-11-2008 06:08 AM

Age 65 rule = keep scabs for another 5 years. Yea. :rolleyes:

stinsonjr 09-11-2008 06:58 AM

Is it possible for the MEC to publish the names of the ones who voted "No" on this?

I wonder how closely it would align with the number of SCABS remaining at CAL?

Murano 09-11-2008 07:05 AM

Bravo to 2/3 rds of the CAL pilots! Good luck to the guys on furlough. Been there... done that. It ain't fun. At least you won't have to worry about getting raped by COBRA now.

EWRflyr 09-11-2008 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Murano (Post 459747)
Bravo to 2/3 rds of the CAL pilots! Good luck to the guys on furlough. Been there... done that. It ain't fun. At least you won't have to worry about getting raped by COBRA now.

I agree. It's only right to watch out for our brothers and sisters while they are on furlough.

On a side note, COBRA doesn't have to be the only option. Granted it will all depend on family situations, illnesses, pre-exisiting conditions, kids, etc.

I am a single guy and when I was hired at CO I found an individual BC/BS (Blue Access Value 3000) policy online for $75 per month. A lot better than paying the $300/mo COBRA from my previous employer. Guys I talk to are surprised I found something so inexpensive. Some I have talked to said they just did without for 6 months because they couldn't afford COBRA from their previous jobs.

Again, you don't have to suffer with no health insurance or COBRA payments if you do a little research.

Insurance Quotes from Individual Health Quotes

Health Insurance, Medical Insurance, Individual Health Insurance Quotes

That's how I found mine for my zip, sex, age, etc. I did an individual policy not short-term. The short-term 6 mo policy was a few more bucks a month, but the continuing policy allowed me to cancel at any time anyway. And, to be safe, I wanted something that would continue on until I knew I had my CO health insurance activated. So I had one month of overlap in coverage (7 months total with my own policy).

Ottopilot 09-11-2008 08:41 AM

Just got a letter in the mail from Al Brandano (CALALPA 170 chairman).

I will quote it so nobody can say I made it up, "We are a weathered elder pilot group with a history of strength, reliability, and survivability, along with a younger component that is yet untested, somewhat selfish..."
I'll stop there. CAL pilots have a history of strength? The younger CAL pilots are selfish? What the..! Am I reading this wrong? What a moron! Vote him out! The scabs are strong and the furloughed guys are selfish. That's just great.:confused:

757Driver 09-11-2008 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 459805)
Just got a letter in the mail from Al Brandano (CALALPA 170 chairman).

I will quote it so nobody can say I made it up, "We are a weathered elder pilot group with a history of strength, reliability, and survivability, along with a younger component that is yet untested, somewhat selfish..."
I'll stop there. CAL pilots have a history of strength? The younger CAL pilots are selfish? What the..! Am I reading this wrong? What a moron! Vote him out! The scabs are strong and the furloughed guys are selfish. That's just great.:confused:

Christ, that right there is enough to get you to vote for Jayson Baron, (though I was doing so anyway). What an out of touch dufus Al is.

skiutah 09-11-2008 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 459805)
Just got a letter in the mail from Al Brandano (CALALPA 170 chairman).

I will quote it so nobody can say I made it up, "We are a weathered elder pilot group with a history of strength, reliability, and survivability, along with a younger component that is yet untested, somewhat selfish..."
I'll stop there. CAL pilots have a history of strength? The younger CAL pilots are selfish? What the..! Am I reading this wrong? What a moron! Vote him out! The scabs are strong and the furloughed guys are selfish. That's just great.:confused:

MUST be a typo. . . or a bad cut and paste. . . how about this "We are a weathered elderplot group, with a history of being somewhat selfish, along with a younger component that is strong, reliable . . .

On a side note lets not forget those affected by 9-11 and all those of you who did their duty on that day!

EWRflyr 09-11-2008 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 459805)
Just got a letter in the mail from Al Brandano (CALALPA 170 chairman).

I will quote it so nobody can say I made it up, "We are a weathered elder pilot group with a history of strength, reliability, and survivability, along with a younger component that is yet untested, somewhat selfish..."
I'll stop there. CAL pilots have a history of strength? The younger CAL pilots are selfish? What the..! Am I reading this wrong? What a moron! Vote him out! The scabs are strong and the furloughed guys are selfish. That's just great.:confused:

Is that where the sentence ends? If not I would prefer to know the entire sentence. Either way doesn't seem to be the best use of language or any way to communicate to those of our pilots who are now without jobs. If he thinks this is appropriate language, then maybe it is time for a change in our LEC officers.

reCALcitrant 09-12-2008 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by WorldDC10 (Post 459302)
It is pretty sad that 1/3 of those who voted said no!

A lot of us are on Mil leave, COLA, Early retirement, etc. I did not see the vote until it was too late to vote. I would say we have a lot of us in that boat. 2/3 voted and said yes. I don't know how many said no. I definitely would have voted yes.


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