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withthatsaid182 10-02-2008 08:27 AM

quick question...where does delta do their training???

Mudhendrvr 10-02-2008 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 472343)
Dude.

No one knows how the next AE will go. Just a guess, widebodies will start going more serior, but who knows.

Go to the category list and pull up some junior guys schedules and you can see how much the reserve guys are doing.

IMO the 88 is a shrinking category, don't expect movement on it. I'm actually moving down on the list % wise. Feb. of 08 we had 470 FO's, now we're down to 390 FO's in ATL! But at least the ALV is up so we can work even more! <joke>

My understanding was that Delta is understaffed and the Maddog was taking the hit. fully staff everything else, to the expense of the Maddog manning. This would explain some of the loss. JMO

rvr350 10-02-2008 10:09 AM

The wisest thing I've done so far is, "Bid where you want to live, then the a/c you don't mind flying". If you're on 1st year pay, it doesn't matter if it's 7ER or MD, it all pays the same anyway. Once you're in the base you can commute, then your QOL improves significantly, and then you can worry about if it's the maddog or the 73 or the 75/76.

Unless you have the SJS, then it's another story:)

Roll Inverted and Pull 10-02-2008 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 472396)
quick question...where does delta do their training???

For the most part in Atlanta at the Delta training building on the Delta "Campus". When they are overloaded, they will use other training facilities. Usually with their own instructors. I`ve been schooled at Long Beach, others have gone to American schools and simulators.

Justdoinmyjob 10-02-2008 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 472096)
That's me exactly. Now that my seniority can hold a decent line on the ER in ATL, I may go over there. Along with all the mid-seniority ex-NWers. If you are a DL 07-08 hire on the ER, you can expect to be on reserve for a long time.


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 472257)
If you are DL 07-08 hire based in ATL you will be on reserve a long time on any category except the M88.

I'm a Jan 2001 hire, that's why I can hold a decent line, but thanks for the head's up! ;)

Dash8widget 10-02-2008 08:03 PM

I'm a March new hire - NYC ER. Last month I flew two 4 day and two 3 day trips. Sat short call one day. Total of 77 hours for the month. I commute from PDX - one mainline flight a day, so I usually come out the day prior. I don't like to sit around the crash pad so I yellow slip as much as possible.

I have a line for October - two four day trips (GRU) a three day (AMS) and another three day that starts on the 31st. Only 65 hours so I white slipped another four day trip. Will most likely be back on reserve in November.

The nice thing about ER flying in JFK is that we have only one early morning departure (01:10 to GEO) and one mid morning departure (08:50ish to LHR) - all the rest of the SCEHDULED rotations report after noon. And all but the return from LHR get back in time for my 19:30 departure back home. On a typical day, the reserve usage is pretty predictable - and if you only have one day of reserve left, there is not much that you can be used for. There are usually a number of reserve lines that have chunks of days off (such as two 6 or 7 day chunks); that helps with the commuting. Even with my trans-con commute, I have found my QOL to be pretty good so far.

Still looking forward to that SEA and PDX ER flying though!

acl65pilot 10-03-2008 09:01 PM

And the word from the think tank is lots of Dead heading for the first few year. Of course they admit that if there is a long fence that could change. As we all know it is about the money.

Dash8widget 10-04-2008 09:40 AM

As a commuter, deadheading isn't all that bad - can you say deviate?

Dash8widget 10-04-2008 09:50 AM

The problem (if you want to call it that) with lots of deadheading in the ER is that the trips start to get pretty long. For rest reasons we usually have a overnight layover before or after a deadhead. A three day ER trip with a DH at both ends is now a five day trip.

acl65pilot 10-04-2008 11:07 AM

Yes, and if these things get back at say three in the afternoon in SEA the next flight is a red-eye back to the east coast. Lots of fun there.


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