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Old 10-24-2008, 08:22 AM   #1  
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Default Airlines will add birth date, gender to ticketing information

I don't mind the birthdate, but they better not be asking about my weight!
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JOHN GILLIE; The News Tribune Published: October 24th, 2008 12:30 AM | Updated: October 24th, 2008 07:37 AM
Expect to furnish not only your name but also your birth date and gender when you buy airline tickets soon.

A new rule imposed by the federal Transportation Security Administration calls for passengers to provide that information to airlines, which will forward it to the TSA.

The information will help reduce the number of people who needlessly are put through additional searches or are denied access to air travel because their names are the same as those on federal watch or “no fly” lists.

Among those that were the victim of so-called “false positives” was Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, who was barred from a 2004 flight.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:43 AM   #2  
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I wish the airlines did ask for people's weight. Recently I've flown some flights where the CG and zero fuel weight listed on the weight and balance sheet had to be way off.

They should have a floor scale at the gate. When you check your ticket to the gate agent, you walk across it and it records your weight, including your bags.

When I flew the Beech 1900, I asked people's weight religiously and if I thought they weren't telling the truth, I made them step on a bathroom scale. I don't want to further a stereotype, but the ladies ALWAYS grossly understated their weight.

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And once again... your taxed dollars hard at work.
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what happens if the person is a she-male? The TSA are going to have a field day with this one.
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I wish the airlines did ask for people's weight. Recently I've flown some flights where the CG and zero fuel weight listed on the weight and balance sheet had to be way off.

They should have a floor scale at the gate. When you check your ticket to the gate agent, you walk across it and it records your weight, including your bags.

When I flew the Beech 1900, I asked people's weight religiously and if I thought they weren't telling the truth, I made them step on a bathroom scale. I don't want to further a stereotype, but the ladies ALWAYS grossly understated their weight.

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Oh please, what Scale? You carry one around in your flight kit?
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PilotFrog, you never used the scales? After the little korean and I "lifted the nose gear off the Kadena ramp" one day, I started using those scales.

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I don't mind the birthdate, but they better not be asking about my weight!
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asked people's weight religiously and if I thought they weren't telling the truth, I made them step on a bathroom scale

Now THAT must have been fun to watch ... I can hear it now:

"Welcome aboard, ma'am. Can I ask you how much you weigh? It's to calculate the aircraft weight."

"Errrr, 125 pounds."

"Okay, ma'am. Hmmmm, would you step over here on this scale, please?"

<<Sound of high-velocity hard-sided purse fracturing a pilot's skull>>

"STEP ON THIS, A*****E!"



I wouldn't do that without a kevlar helmet, bullet-proof vest, and a catcher's cup!

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PilotFrog, you never used the scales? After the little korean and I "lifted the nose gear off the Kadena ramp" one day, I started using those scales.

-Fatty
Haha. I used to worry when I saw all the strut showing. Then I saw a plane balancing on the mains. I realized I wasn't maximizing my payload if it wasn't .

However, I found when we do charters and use actual passenger weights, you come in well under the average weights we use for revenue. Including adding the "liars buffer".
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If we start asking about the passenger's weight, why don't we start giving the passengers the visibility into the pilot's capabilities. We could provide to the passengers a score from 1 to 100 on how competent the pilot was on their last checkride. I know I would like to know how much the person I was trusting with my life knew about flying. I would actually like to know that more than how much the person next to me weighed.

Hmmmm. Yeah...let's put everyone on a scale!
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