Delta-Alaska, Talking heads report...
11-17-2008, 04:19 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by BHopper88
I think the most interesting aspect would be the effect on the regionals Horizon and SkyWest. Sure would be an interesting battle on the West Coast. 
11-18-2008, 06:14 AM
#43
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Here's my personal take.
1. Alaska has 1.2B in the bank. Any smart venture capitalist could buy us with our own money and have abot $350M in change.
2. Delta wants to be the largest carrier in LAX. They've announced a whole bunch of new Pacific international flying. What do you need to make that successful? West Coast feed. Today, that means Alaska. Granted, the "alliance" does that for them now, but once the NWA merger is finished, why give part of your fare to someone else when you can absorb them and get it all?
3. What does Delta get with Alaska? 116 Boeings. 1500 trained pilots. A solid West Coast route structure that includes Hawaii and Mexico. Oh, and that 1.2B in the bank.
4. SLI. I'm pretty sure DeltaWest pilots will insist on fencing off the widebody flying using the old excuse "career expectations" and then use some sort of ratio deal to integrate the list. Again, from my personal perspective...fine. As long as there is an equal fence around SEA, ANC and LAX crew bases. Or an agreement that for every SEA base position that is vacated, an equal number of widebody positions become available to premerger Eskimos using system seniority.
As a casual observer, the DAL/NWA merger seems to be going pretty darn smoothly when you compare it to the bunfight that was the AWA/AAA merger. I see no reason why a Delta/Alaska merger could not work out the same way.
Everyone has their little fiefdom they want to protect, but in the end you all have to work together. If you don't remember that, you end up with USAPA on the property.
1. Alaska has 1.2B in the bank. Any smart venture capitalist could buy us with our own money and have abot $350M in change.
2. Delta wants to be the largest carrier in LAX. They've announced a whole bunch of new Pacific international flying. What do you need to make that successful? West Coast feed. Today, that means Alaska. Granted, the "alliance" does that for them now, but once the NWA merger is finished, why give part of your fare to someone else when you can absorb them and get it all?
3. What does Delta get with Alaska? 116 Boeings. 1500 trained pilots. A solid West Coast route structure that includes Hawaii and Mexico. Oh, and that 1.2B in the bank.
4. SLI. I'm pretty sure DeltaWest pilots will insist on fencing off the widebody flying using the old excuse "career expectations" and then use some sort of ratio deal to integrate the list. Again, from my personal perspective...fine. As long as there is an equal fence around SEA, ANC and LAX crew bases. Or an agreement that for every SEA base position that is vacated, an equal number of widebody positions become available to premerger Eskimos using system seniority.
As a casual observer, the DAL/NWA merger seems to be going pretty darn smoothly when you compare it to the bunfight that was the AWA/AAA merger. I see no reason why a Delta/Alaska merger could not work out the same way.
Everyone has their little fiefdom they want to protect, but in the end you all have to work together. If you don't remember that, you end up with USAPA on the property.
11-18-2008, 06:25 AM
#44
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I think that after the SLI is over we well whine a little bit, but yes it will go fairly smoothly.
With ALK I am sure that it would be a great merger. I think that it would be a lot easier in a lot of regards, as we would just put you under our res system, training etc, and not try and integrate systems. Look for this in the next six to 18 months.
With ALK I am sure that it would be a great merger. I think that it would be a lot easier in a lot of regards, as we would just put you under our res system, training etc, and not try and integrate systems. Look for this in the next six to 18 months.
11-18-2008, 07:45 AM
#45
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Ok, you guys, I'm jealous. Smooth merger integration, no dumbsh## union trying to sue it's own members, no furloughs. Wow, sometimes these things do work out. I guess it is all in who your CEO is, right, Doug?
And, one last thing, pilot groups who believe that the arbitrator's ruling is, indeed, final and binding.
And, one last thing, pilot groups who believe that the arbitrator's ruling is, indeed, final and binding.
11-18-2008, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
Ok, you guys, I'm jealous. Smooth merger integration, no dumbsh## union trying to sue it's own members, no furloughs. Wow, sometimes these things do work out. I guess it is all in who your CEO is, right, Doug?
And, one last thing, pilot groups who believe that the arbitrator's ruling is, indeed, final and binding.
And, one last thing, pilot groups who believe that the arbitrator's ruling is, indeed, final and binding.
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