Family Airline
01-29-2010, 08:14 AM
#81
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
That may be true. I do remember being told that we lost 350 million on the 747 program, although a lot of that would have been running a ful schedule to Nagoya with empty airplanes during the Gulf War. I was also told that our costs per seat mile to HNL were 4 cents/mle and the yield was 3 cents/mile. We did run ful 747s to JFK but I do not know what the costs/yields on that route were. I just remember that Tower couldn't make money with the 747 and they had a pretty good setup with their terminal in JFK and some decent longhaul routes.
We did have some crap 747s at AWA, the VP of Ops (Don Monteath)at the time was a moron who later went to TWA and helped them crater as well. But we had orders for 2 747 400s with Boeing and options for more so those KLM aircraft were interim until the 400s were to come in 1996. Never happened because of CH 11 but that was the plan.
We did have some crap 747s at AWA, the VP of Ops (Don Monteath)at the time was a moron who later went to TWA and helped them crater as well. But we had orders for 2 747 400s with Boeing and options for more so those KLM aircraft were interim until the 400s were to come in 1996. Never happened because of CH 11 but that was the plan.
Biggest mistake was taking the whales of the JFK route and operating to Nagoya. They had to block off some 80 seats from PHNL so they could make the trip non-stop. You remember when NWA was competing for that route? Well you know the rest of the story.
02-03-2010, 06:59 AM
#83
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Position: DHC-8 CA Furloughed
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I worked at L.A. Center in the 80's and early 90's. I remember Cactus 10 Heavy lumbering off LAS to DAG on its way to HNL, in the summer. I heard that it was called the "Non-Rev Express" due to the lack of paying customers.
I spoke with a AWA CA some time later who talked about military charters to the Persian Gulf during Desert Shield. This was some of the last flying that AWA did with the whale. He said, everyone flying to the Gulf had the name of the airline painted over...except us!
Controllers loved AWA back in the day and were sorry the B747 thing did not work out.
I spoke with a AWA CA some time later who talked about military charters to the Persian Gulf during Desert Shield. This was some of the last flying that AWA did with the whale. He said, everyone flying to the Gulf had the name of the airline painted over...except us!
Controllers loved AWA back in the day and were sorry the B747 thing did not work out.
04-19-2010, 07:58 PM
#85
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new name...
OMG... is this for real??
Family Airlines Incorporated
OST-2008-0029 - Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity - Interstate Scheduled
April 2, 2010
Re: Amendment
Please be advised Applicant Family Airlines, OST-2008-0029, has amended its Articles of Incorporation on March 18, 2009 to change its corporate name to Avatar Airlines.
By: John DesbrowIndex
Family Airlines Incorporated
OST-2008-0029 - Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity - Interstate Scheduled
April 2, 2010
Re: Amendment
Please be advised Applicant Family Airlines, OST-2008-0029, has amended its Articles of Incorporation on March 18, 2009 to change its corporate name to Avatar Airlines.
By: John DesbrowIndex
04-20-2010, 06:10 AM
#88
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I've been updating my application weekly.
It is getting expensive at $50 bucks per week, but I think it will help to keep my application on the top of the stack. In fact, they sent me an email and encouraged me to update my resume twice weekly if possible.
I'm gonna look good in the left seat of the 747.
It is getting expensive at $50 bucks per week, but I think it will help to keep my application on the top of the stack. In fact, they sent me an email and encouraged me to update my resume twice weekly if possible.
I'm gonna look good in the left seat of the 747.
04-30-2010, 06:30 AM
#89
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Position: C172/C182, Both
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B747??
I am wondering the logic behind using a B747 for short hall flying...according to Capt. Dan Eikleberry, the SPM are cheaper than any other aircraft and that it's great for short haul flying. Anyone have thoughts on this?
$50 to apply? hmmm....sounds like a word that rhymes with spam.
$50 to apply? hmmm....sounds like a word that rhymes with spam.
04-30-2010, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Likeabat
I've been updating my application weekly.
It is getting expensive at $50 bucks per week, but I think it will help to keep my application on the top of the stack. In fact, they sent me an email and encouraged me to update my resume twice weekly if possible.
I'm gonna look good in the left seat of the 747.
It is getting expensive at $50 bucks per week, but I think it will help to keep my application on the top of the stack. In fact, they sent me an email and encouraged me to update my resume twice weekly if possible.
I'm gonna look good in the left seat of the 747.
Keep on paying ! Maybe you will go broke and ruin your background check so the rest of us can get real jobs.
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