UAL Flt 93 cockpit transcript
 

Notice the hijackers' final words-- http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12286423/

The recording is to be played in court soon. It is one I really don't want to hear.

I was pretty shocked hearing the tape of ATC with United 93. I can't image how bad the CVR is!

Its all BS. Flight 93 never crashed. If it had there would have been wreckage found. Unless planes just vaporize upon impact. The govt. would have you believe that happened 4 times that day, even though it never has before in history. No plane, no black box, no last words.

I suggest watching the internet movie "Loose Change" which can be downloaded here http://www.question911.com/links.php . Or you can find it in streaming video from multiple sources on the net.

Huh?
 

And I suppose you sir are an alien from the Chasbozka galaxy? Sir, please focus your editorial thoughts on conspiracy theory sites because on this forum you will get no support as many of us here lost friends and colleagues that day in those airplanes.

I have heard a lot about conspiracy theories and 9/11, but that last post has got to be the worst. It has no evidence supporting it.

Have you ever seen a Boeing 757 flying well past VNE nose dive into the ground? All the wreckage WILL vaporize almost instantaneously. Most commercial airplane crashes happen at low speeds (150kts), and small rates of descent. Infact, I can't even think of a plane crash that hit the ground that happened anywhere close to 500kts (250, maybe, and that's pushing it), and some amazing rate of descent it must have been flying at!

Here in Utah there was an F-16 that crashed a few weeks ago in the Great Salt Lake Desert. The pilot punched out at very high speeds. When they showed the footage of the crash it was just a large black streak. The airplane or nothing like unto could be seen. It just seemed to vaporize.

Just watch the movie. What are you afraid of? You know exactly what happened right? You know because the govt. has been so forthcoming. Right.

ryane946- They just vaporize huh?

Helios B737 www.airdisaster.com/photos/5b-dby/3.shtml

Aeroflot www.airdisaster.com/photos/f-ogqs/photo.shtml

TWA 800 www.airdisaster.com/photos/tw800/photo.shtml

AA 965 www.airdisaster.com/photos/aa965/photo.shtml

PanAm103 www.airdisaster.com/photos/pa103/photo.shtml

USAF B-737 www.airdisaster.com/photos/usaf21/photo.shtml

DL 191 www.airdisaster.com/photos/dl191/2.shtml

There is more. How about you give me one piece of evidence of an aircraft vaporizing upon impact on a day other than 9/11/01?

If you read anything that he typed carefully you'd see that he was referring to jets going 500 knots when they hit the ground. Was Delta 191 doing 500 knots on final to DFW?

Anyway, what are you saying. Do you think that UAL 93 was shotdown over Pennsylvania? If so, I think it'd scatter into several states like confetti.

Flight 93 wreckage
 

Wreckage WAS found, including an engine smashed flat and buried, and several square feet of fuselage.

How do you know? Have you seen these?

According to some people on this board, the entire plane vaporized upon impact.

Flight 93 wreckage
 

CBS showed film clips of wreckage on last night's broadcast. The network news media are often slipshod and biased, but part of a grand conspiracy? I doubt it.

When they investigated the lear 35 Payne Stewart died in. There were only a few peices larger than a quarter left in the hole. The airlane struck the groung at 600 knots.:(

At the time of 9/11 I was involved in ALPA work. A good friend of mine, a pilot I've known for 37 years, was the head of our union’s safety division on 9/11.

We had a regular scheduled MEC meeting in Chicago about 2-3 weeks after that horrible day. My friend and I both attended this 5 day meeting as our duties required our presence.

As the head of our air safety unit, my friend was invited to Shanksville, PA, getting there on a company 757 either very late that night or shortly after midnight. This was one of the few airplanes permitted to fly after the FAA shut the system down that day. I assume they flew in Pittsburgh, PA.

He showed me and everyone else at our meeting about 40-50 photos of the scene that he had taken. He also provided us with a detailed description and analysis of what he saw. This is a man who is a qualified accident investigator and had been involved in ALPA air safety work for 30+ continuous years. His integrity is absolutely above reproach.

As I recall, and it's been 4-1/2 years, the airplane hit the ground around 400+ knots at an angle of 70 degrees or so. Possibly inverted, but on that point I’m not certain. As such it didn't have a lot of forward motion, just a lot of vertical motion, so most of its energy went straight down. Not unlike Value Jet in the Everglades.

While there wasn't a lot to be seen above ground, there were definitely pieces of an airplane there.

Some of the airplane ended up some distance from the main crash, as I recall perhaps as far away as 1/4 mile or less.

With all due respect, the scenario you are referring to is absolutely absurd.

If there are pictures as you say, why have none been released to the public?
Perhaps flight 93 did crash in PA, but to date there has not been any real evidence given.

Tom- I saw the footage you are referring to and it is definitely "slipshod" and unconvincing at best.

Your recollection is spot on. I recently had dinner with the pilot you're refering to and I've worked for him in years past, I agree "...His integrity is absolutely above reproach..." I just wanted to add ability to that list.

Was at a CFIT crash site of an aircraft doing 300 KIAS recently. Vaporize is by far the best way to describe the wreckage. Outside of engines, zero parts too big to fit through a hula hoop, very few required using both hands, vast majority could fit in the palm of your hand.

Please let me be the last person to comment on this. Further comments only prolong a senseless discussion.

I noticed that the some of the last words in the transcripts were "hey hey give it to me" I guess that proves the theroy that these muslim terrorist guys like it in the tail feathers...... Probably ****ed each other in the *** the whole way to the ground.... Man I hate those terrorist BA$TARDS. On a side note I hope Moussai or however you spell it gets the Chair with a last meal of pork.

Will you just shut up? I think you are just trying to cause an argument to hear yourself talk. I dare you to tell your theroy to one of the family members of those killed. Get a clue.

My only question is .... who paid for the dinner?

First met him in June 1967. We were both new DC-6 flight engineers and going through a class called BTT - Basic Turbine Training. Learning the very basic principles of how a jet engine functions.

He was based in SFO and I was based in EWR. He was about 6 months senior to me.

He was a guy I always enjoyed meeting when on the road. :)

He defines the label "class act".

Fair enough, but allow me to add this:

http://i.pbase.com/u43/pdh/large/33664149.DSC_0489.jpg