Desparate Measures
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Interesting. I always thought that flight attendants were supposed to do that anyway after every flight. I guess not though. When I was a server for 4 years, I was required to clean all the tables that I served after every customer, AND at the end of the night after a 10 hour shift. Seems like that should be part of the job in an airplane too. But i'm not a flight attendant, so I don't know.
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Let's see if I get this straight.......come in on your own free time and volunteer to clean the aircraft and all you get is a t-shirt? Yea, right. Let's see if their CEO is first in line!
What I do beleive in are F.A's and F/O's picking up trash after a flight and before the next boarding. I've done this many times due to the lack of personnel at certain stations while the "ole bags" just on their butts and flap their lips on a cell phone. |
It's OK for the Captain to help out, too.
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Giving him the added advantage cause he gets the paper work and on the bus, it takes them awhile to load the flight plan into the MCDU ;)
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Yeah Great,
Perhaps that will lead to the laying off of Aircraft cleaners as well. What a load of crap. Alaska got rid of all their full-time cleaners, caterers, baggage handlers ect... and hired crappy part-time firms to replace them only to have: 1.Unreported fusleage piercing which led to a decompression 2. Gang graffiti in the cargo bins 3. Filthy Airplanes the list goes on and on and their paying more now to fix the problem. Shortsightedness on a grand scale |
Gotta agree with 757Driver on this one, NWA (or should I say AMFA) got rid of all of the cleaners at NWA and now the ramp guys are doing it....not sure if they are going to continue or if NWA is going to hire an outside vender....
How many of the MAJORS still have cleaners? |
so now they want us to work for free... please.
when I served I had to clean up afterwards too but at least they still paid me. as for cleaning inbetween flights, I have enough to do in my 30 minutes so don't count on me to get back their and clean. if I see something on the floor I'll pick it up but I won't be back their sweeping. |
Originally Posted by LeoSV
Interesting. I always thought that flight attendants were supposed to do that anyway after every flight. I guess not though. When I was a server for 4 years, I was required to clean all the tables that I served after every customer, AND at the end of the night after a 10 hour shift. Seems like that should be part of the job in an airplane too. But i'm not a flight attendant, so I don't know.
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I wonder how many company officers showed with there cleaning ladys to help in the effort.
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Originally Posted by CO737,3,5,7,8,9
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Originally Posted by mike734
Flight attendants are not there to serve food. They are well trained safety specialists. Can you imagine what the cabin would be like without them? It would be the Jerry Srpinger show every flight. If the company wants them to clean maybe they could start by providing them with decent meals.
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"But Delta pilot Keith Rosenkranz hoped loyal customers would appreciate the extra efforts by employees and keep doing business with the airline"
This guy needs to put down the crackpipe. Customers don't give a $hit about airline employees efforts or anything else for that matter. All they want is the cheapest fare and to be treated like a sheik for $20. If they gave a crap they wouldn't be such a pain in the a$$ to deal with and would not throw crap on the floor of the airplane like it's a garbage bin. F the passengers.....I am so happy I fly cargo! |
Originally Posted by mike734
It would be the Jerry Srpinger show every flight.
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Originally Posted by CO737,3,5,7,8,9
Delta Air Lines Sets the Record Straight About 'Clean Day' Friday April 21, 3:03 pm ET Clean Day initiative is a positive for customers and employees ATLANTA, April 21, 2006 (PRIMEZONE) -- Earlier this week, Delta Air Lines launched its ``Clean Campaign,'' an initiative that includes increasing the frequency of aircraft deep cleans and completing its on-going program to refurbish aircraft interiors. The initiative was launched with a kick-off event, ``Clean Day,'' which gave employees and leaders the opportunity to work together to better the customer experience. It has been mischaracterized and Delta would like to take the opportunity to correct any inadvertent misreporting and concern this has caused. Specifically: -- Delta executives, together with Delta employees, kicked off the Clean Campaign initiative by volunteering to clean Delta aircraft during overnight shifts earlier this week. -- Delta is not eliminating its overnight cleaning crews. To the contrary, the company is increasing the frequency of aircraft deep cleaning procedures. -- This is not a cost cutting measure. This is part of an initiative to underscore Delta's commitment to the fundamentals of customer service and, in fact, the company has committed millions of dollars in additional resources to support the Clean Campaign going forward. -- As they frequently do, employees asked Delta what they could do to help improve the customer experience, and from that inquiry, Clean Day was born. -- Dozens of Delta leaders throughout the company, including several executives, also participated in "Clean Day" activities in New York, Cincinnati, and Salt Lake City. -- Delta employees have a strong history of working together and participating in the success of the airline. Further, below are quotes from employees who participated in the Clean Day events. ``Our airplanes needed our special touch and I was proud to be a part of the Delta team.'' Vanessa Womble (LGA) ``I volunteered to do this out of sheer curiosity. I am fairly new to Delta, and wanted to see what it was like. It sounded fun, and it was! Our customers will notice the difference.'' Eric Schoenbaum (SLC) ``I had a great time and would definitely do it again!'' Sandra Fiallos (LGA) ``This event brought us together.'' Ion Balan (LGA) |
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I can see it now:
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Yes loyal employees work for free so senior management can get more bonus pay. What a load of crap! I hope the employees don't lift a finger until all bonuses have been removed.
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"Ahh Peter......Ahh, I'm going to have to go ahead and ask you to come in on Sunday, too... "
http://www.reelwavs.com/movies/office_space/yeahhi.wav |
You have to wonder what think tank this brainstorm come from.
With this type of decision making by management it's no wonder they have lost 11 billion dollars since 2001. |
Didn’t you get the memo????
Don’t forget the cover sheet... And I thought I had it bad loading bodies in and out a 30 years old Lear.. My heart goes out to all of you, good luck! Sk3 |
Originally Posted by Speed
It's OK for the Captain to help out, too.
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I have to agree, that idea is about the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Period. It will never work. No one would ever volunteer.
With that said, I have to respond to some earlier posts about "outsourcing" cabin cleaning. I don't know about other airlines, but I know at United, cabin cleaners are covered under the mechanics union, and it is not unusual for a janitor to be making $40,000 a year. To me that is rediculous, and I have no problem with outsourcing those jobs. But trying to get people to do that job for free..... hahaha. Ya right! |
Originally Posted by ryane946
but I know at United, cabin cleaners are covered under the mechanics union, and it is not unusual for a janitor to be making $40,000 a year. To me that is rediculous, and I have no problem with outsourcing those jobs.!
That is the problem with what is happening in America........................ Any labor (actually many white collar jobs too) job with pay and benefits above poverty levels are being outsourced to lower wages with no benefits.............often to "Guest workers" many of them undocumented...................Get the picture?? |
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