DAL Scope Compliance
01-24-2009 | 01:21 PM
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We don't have to recapture DC9, and 76 seat plus flying - it's already ours - we have to prevent it being eroded further. THE best ways to accomplish that is actually have DAL mainline pilots flying 76 seaters.
It will be far easier to negotiate it away if we never have DAL pilots flying those acft, than if it means booting DAL pilots cockpits to ease Scope.
The path of least resistance to that end is to integrate Compass onto the end of our list.
It will be far easier to negotiate it away if we never have DAL pilots flying those acft, than if it means booting DAL pilots cockpits to ease Scope.
The path of least resistance to that end is to integrate Compass onto the end of our list.
In addition to mainline giving away jobs, it also gave a bunch of great layover cities to Compass. Yet another reason why any mainline pilot should want that fleet back to where it should have been to begin with.
01-24-2009 | 01:43 PM
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Sorry to hear about your loss, I think it's messed up what Midwest pulled.
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01-24-2009 | 02:34 PM
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Thanks for your support. However it pains me to see NWA flying alot of the routes we flew before NWA bought us.MKE - LAS, MKE - LAX come to mind.I get furloughed, YX "hands" NWA some primo trips....I'm sure you can see just how it smells from my perspective.....
01-24-2009 | 02:40 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Actually we were lied to very convincingly that Compass would not replace DC9 flying - charts, spreadsheets, power point presentations, our negotiators, attorneys, ever so caring Senior LEC Reps and MEC Chairman telling us in a barrage of road shows, emails, and MEC Comms that everything was under control, remain calm, do not worry, and support the TA.
How we were ever so f$%&ing naive is amazing. Our lesson, and what happened on your side of the aisle needs to be a wake call to every junior pilot that some of those elected to represent all pilots on the seniority list will sell your seniority down the river in a blink while protecting theirs.
They can honestly tell you "Scope does not matter" - it doesn't - to them.
How we were ever so f$%&ing naive is amazing. Our lesson, and what happened on your side of the aisle needs to be a wake call to every junior pilot that some of those elected to represent all pilots on the seniority list will sell your seniority down the river in a blink while protecting theirs.
They can honestly tell you "Scope does not matter" - it doesn't - to them.
01-24-2009 | 02:45 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
If you ever wanted to come over to Delta, your resume with experience at an airline with excellent service would look good. If there is a silver lining, I'd hope it came with a letter that said "welcome aboard."
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01-24-2009 | 03:04 PM
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Thanks Bucking Bar, I would very much appreciate a priority interview when/if DAL starts hiring.
While I agree the Airtran buyout may have led to the whole ship sinking during the oil bubble, the end result for me is going to comparable it seems......
Yes, I hear you about ALPA, that's just what we were told on the conference call....that it was our fault we didn't have strong enough language.I thought that's what I've been paying 2% for.......it's very frustrating to be sure.
While I agree the Airtran buyout may have led to the whole ship sinking during the oil bubble, the end result for me is going to comparable it seems......
Yes, I hear you about ALPA, that's just what we were told on the conference call....that it was our fault we didn't have strong enough language.I thought that's what I've been paying 2% for.......it's very frustrating to be sure.
01-24-2009 | 03:24 PM
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Ok....b S
What could we, or even DAL as a company have done? And what could they (DAL) do, that would have benefeited them (the company)? No airline mgmt is going to throw a lifeline to a pilot group just to be nice.
Why would they merge Midwest? just to be nice?
01-24-2009 | 07:14 PM
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Hasn't NWA always done a MKE-LAX flight? They used to have a DC-10 on it.
01-24-2009 | 07:16 PM
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As to taking on Midwest, keep in mind that there was an on again and off again merger with NWA well past this time last year. DAL couldn't have taken on Midwest if it didn't even know for sure it'd be merging with NWA.
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And oh yes, count me in, staple Compass and lets start ordering E175s. 100% for it. And my vote is to only staple Compass and not any of the other DCIs. So thats my two votes. Actually, third vote, give furloughed Midwest pilots preference in interviewing, they earned it.
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And oh yes, count me in, staple Compass and lets start ordering E175s. 100% for it. And my vote is to only staple Compass and not any of the other DCIs. So thats my two votes. Actually, third vote, give furloughed Midwest pilots preference in interviewing, they earned it.
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