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Old 11-26-2006, 01:13 AM
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Ok so assuming 450 go back to AA mainline and they do start hiring again, how is the flowthrough supposed to work?

On another note you guys are seriously bitter! Do you remember why you started learning to be pilots? where you all about the money and contracts then or was your dream more important? seriously do you remember working 7 days a week as a cfi? OH GOD it must be horrible being at a regional for ten years making 80k a year! hold on i need to rag on a few more things to make this a normal post on an apc forum! Screw alpa, management, mesa and there scab pilots, southwest and their fuel hedging, the public for being dumb, our decisions to be pilots cause you should choose a better career as a fast food manager, I mean, they make more! I don't know about other people but you guys down the pilot career so much you should just quit and make room for the rest of us who really enjoy being a pilot. Next time some 5 year old kid smiles at the wings on your chest go slap that little beotch and tell him that he's just going to be next in line to be F'ed by ALPA and dereg!!
you are clearly an idiot. Obviously you are not a pilot and are only a wannabee. This isn't the 1970's...kids no longer smile at airline pilots. And as for the dream: my husband lost his pension. Is that part of "the dream", you moronic idiot?
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:21 AM
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Ok so assuming 450 go back to AA mainline and they do start hiring again, how is the flowthrough supposed to work?

On another note you guys are seriously bitter! Do you remember why you started learning to be pilots? where you all about the money and contracts then or was your dream more important? seriously do you remember working 7 days a week as a cfi? OH GOD it must be horrible being at a regional for ten years making 80k a year! hold on i need to rag on a few more things to make this a normal post on an apc forum! Screw alpa, management, mesa and there scab pilots, southwest and their fuel hedging, the public for being dumb, our decisions to be pilots cause you should choose a better career as a fast food manager, I mean, they make more! I don't know about other people but you guys down the pilot career so much you should just quit and make room for the rest of us who really enjoy being a pilot. Next time some 5 year old kid smiles at the wings on your chest go slap that little beotch and tell him that he's just going to be next in line to be F'ed by ALPA and dereg!!
you are perfect for gojets.
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Old 11-26-2006, 07:51 AM
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you are clearly an idiot. Obviously you are not a pilot and are only a wannabee. This isn't the 1970's...kids no longer smile at airline pilots. And as for the dream: my husband lost his pension. Is that part of "the dream", you moronic idiot?
Easy Mama, he's probably not a moronic idiot, more likely just an ignorant kid. I hope he archives his statement and revisits it in 5 years - when he's still a regional FO with a wife and maybe a kid, spending 2/3 of his nights away from home, doing reduced rest overnights followed by long days, making less than $40k year - and I think he'll realize he did'nt really have the experience to make an informed statement. Yeah, we all got into it because we love to fly and that's great, but the job has a lot of negatives that just get worse as your life expands unless your seniority keeps pace!
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Old 11-26-2006, 08:42 AM
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Easy Mama, he's probably not a moronic idiot, more likely just an ignorant kid. I hope he archives his statement and revisits it in 5 years - when he's still a regional FO with a wife and maybe a kid, spending 2/3 of his nights away from home, doing reduced rest overnights followed by long days, making less than $40k year - and I think he'll realize he did'nt really have the experience to make an informed statement. Yeah, we all got into it because we love to fly and that's great, but the job has a lot of negatives that just get worse as your life expands unless your seniority keeps pace!
Thanks swayzee for articulating that for me. Sorry to jump off the handle, but I just think that peops should at least get their feet wet in this bidness before they make judgements(i.e. thinking that we are all bitter). Thanks for being a voice of reason and putting a nice spin on my comments.
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Easy Mama, he's probably not a moronic idiot, more likely just an ignorant kid. I hope he archives his statement and revisits it in 5 years - when he's still a regional FO with a wife and maybe a kid, spending 2/3 of his nights away from home, doing reduced rest overnights followed by long days, making less than $40k year - and I think he'll realize he did'nt really have the experience to make an informed statement. Yeah, we all got into it because we love to fly and that's great, but the job has a lot of negatives that just get worse as your life expands unless your seniority keeps pace!
you're right, there was a time 15 years ago when I used to think like this "kid" and today I'm 180 degrees off that course.. Reality sets in when the mortgage statement comes in, the insurance bill, the kids medical bills, the IRA, the savings for college, and the wife's occasional visit to Nordstroms.. Life isn't as cheap as it used to be when I was an 24 year old CFI living at home with mom...
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:17 PM
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you are clearly an idiot. Obviously you are not a pilot and are only a wannabee. This isn't the 1970's...kids no longer smile at airline pilots. And as for the dream: my husband lost his pension. Is that part of "the dream", you moronic idiot?
WOW!! Cry me a F#$@in river about your husband losing his pension! are you telling me that someone who was likely making 6 figures didn't think to invest any of that money? since dereg 100's of companies have gone bankrupt!! that's aviation!! At 40,000 a year i could still invest enough to live a good life down the road! do you sit at home and just ***** on message boards calling "kids" "moronic idiots"!! maybe that's your problem, you are blaming other people for your lack of planning and anger at OTHER PEOPLE "screwing" you!!!

To answer anyone elses questions im 21 1000/120, college degree and trying to figure out where i want to fly... you know what, I wouldn't care if i made 40,000 a year at 26 and i'm sorry you guys have such a problem with that... I work seven days a week and wouldn't mind working 4 days on making twice my cfi salary!!! how is it bad to have three days off a week!? I realize that pay sucks but thats why it's only the first few years and that how it has been for a long time, so deal with it or get going to another industry... Im not saying FO's dont deserve more but come one people! you can get with a good company with awesome upgrade times if you want! even a "moronic idiont" like myself could think of 10 airlines with awesome upgrade times and descent pay! quit complaining cause you have a bad contract with the company you are at!!! Go TO A NEW AIRLINE!!! try airlinepilotcentral.com i heard they show upgrade times!!!
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WOW!! Cry me a F#$@in river about your husband losing his pension! are you telling me that someone who was likely making 6 figures didn't think to invest any of that money? since dereg 100's of companies have gone bankrupt!! that's aviation!! At 40,000 a year i could still invest enough to live a good life down the road! do you sit at home and just ***** on message boards calling "kids" "moronic idiots"!! maybe that's your problem, you are blaming other people for your lack of planning and anger at OTHER PEOPLE "screwing" you!!!

To answer anyone elses questions im 21 1000/120, college degree and trying to figure out where i want to fly... you know what, I wouldn't care if i made 40,000 a year at 26 and i'm sorry you guys have such a problem with that... I work seven days a week and wouldn't mind working 4 days on making twice my cfi salary!!! how is it bad to have three days off a week!? I realize that pay sucks but thats why it's only the first few years and that how it has been for a long time, so deal with it or get going to another industry... Im not saying FO's dont deserve more but come one people! you can get with a good company with awesome upgrade times if you want! even a "moronic idiont" like myself could think of 10 airlines with awesome upgrade times and descent pay! quit complaining cause you have a bad contract with the company you are at!!! Go TO A NEW AIRLINE!!! try airlinepilotcentral.com i heard they show upgrade times!!!
Looks like we found one of the new Skybus pilot hires!

When he gets on he can even afford a new 10 speed and nintendo game.

You better hurry, Dad says the garbage needs to go out NOW.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:34 PM
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WOW!! Cry me a F#$@in river about your husband losing his pension! are you telling me that someone who was likely making 6 figures didn't think to invest any of that money? since dereg 100's of companies have gone bankrupt!! that's aviation!! At 40,000 a year i could still invest enough to live a good life down the road! do you sit at home and just ***** on message boards calling "kids" "moronic idiots"!! maybe that's your problem, you are blaming other people for your lack of planning and anger at OTHER PEOPLE "screwing" you!!!

To answer anyone elses questions im 21 1000/120, college degree and trying to figure out where i want to fly... you know what, I wouldn't care if i made 40,000 a year at 26 and i'm sorry you guys have such a problem with that... I work seven days a week and wouldn't mind working 4 days on making twice my cfi salary!!! how is it bad to have three days off a week!? I realize that pay sucks but thats why it's only the first few years and that how it has been for a long time, so deal with it or get going to another industry... Im not saying FO's dont deserve more but come one people! you can get with a good company with awesome upgrade times if you want! even a "moronic idiont" like myself could think of 10 airlines with awesome upgrade times and descent pay! quit complaining cause you have a bad contract with the company you are at!!! Go TO A NEW AIRLINE!!! try airlinepilotcentral.com i heard they show upgrade times!!!
oh.. what's become of the profession.... woe is me.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo View Post
WOW!! Cry me a F#$@in river about your husband losing his pension! are you telling me that someone who was likely making 6 figures didn't think to invest any of that money? since dereg 100's of companies have gone bankrupt!! that's aviation!! At 40,000 a year i could still invest enough to live a good life down the road! do you sit at home and just ***** on message boards calling "kids" "moronic idiots"!! maybe that's your problem, you are blaming other people for your lack of planning and anger at OTHER PEOPLE "screwing" you!!!

To answer anyone elses questions im 21 1000/120, college degree and trying to figure out where i want to fly... you know what, I wouldn't care if i made 40,000 a year at 26 and i'm sorry you guys have such a problem with that... I work seven days a week and wouldn't mind working 4 days on making twice my cfi salary!!! how is it bad to have three days off a week!? I realize that pay sucks but thats why it's only the first few years and that how it has been for a long time, so deal with it or get going to another industry... Im not saying FO's dont deserve more but come one people! you can get with a good company with awesome upgrade times if you want! even a "moronic idiont" like myself could think of 10 airlines with awesome upgrade times and descent pay! quit complaining cause you have a bad contract with the company you are at!!! Go TO A NEW AIRLINE!!! try airlinepilotcentral.com i heard they show upgrade times!!!
Then why are you still working 7 days a week. Hey Tony, how many people can you put on one ignore list?
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo View Post
Ok so assuming 450 go back to AA mainline and they do start hiring again, how is the flowthrough supposed to work?

On another note you guys are seriously bitter! Do you remember why you started learning to be pilots? where you all about the money and contracts then or was your dream more important? seriously do you remember working 7 days a week as a cfi? OH GOD it must be horrible being at a regional for ten years making 80k a year! hold on i need to rag on a few more things to make this a normal post on an apc forum! Screw alpa, management, mesa and there scab pilots, southwest and their fuel hedging, the public for being dumb, our decisions to be pilots cause you should choose a better career as a fast food manager, I mean, they make more! I don't know about other people but you guys down the pilot career so much you should just quit and make room for the rest of us who really enjoy being a pilot. Next time some 5 year old kid smiles at the wings on your chest go slap that little beotch and tell him that he's just going to be next in line to be F'ed by ALPA and dereg!!
This kid has a fairly good grasp on things! There are no guarantees
in life and certainly in this business.
I like the kids attitude. He says F-it I want to be a pilot.
He will make it in this business.
His expectations are low and expects nothing in return.

He just wants to fly planes for a living.
Rag on him as you will but you could learn something
from his decent overview of his ideas.

The rest of you saps that are overwelmed by enormous mortgages,
kids braces and a ol lady who spends , should have planned better.

Don't tell me that EVERY ONE of your parents didn't tell you to save
for the "rainy day" well folks that day is NOW

I see it all day long ....people are overextended.

As for the folks that are furloughed
I am sorry for your bad fortune. No one knew.

But the same cards dealt to Kangaroo kid he could bounce back
and keep going. I like this guy and if you don't too bad
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