My letter of response to Delta union Reps
#73
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I agree with some of your post. The fact that you are mentioning a staple is unfair. I was directly affected by the Shuttle America integration but I did not complain about 50+ pilots going directly in front of me because a lot of them lost senioirty. I saw the bigger picture and I wasn't thinking of me me me. What about AA inergrating TWA. Was that fair?
My personal opinion is EVERYONE needs to take it on the chin and do the right thing and intergrate something besides staple. I am hopeful and happy that some of yall are trying to make this profession right again so lets do it at every angle. Staple does nothing. Of course I'm just wishing.
Carry on
My personal opinion is EVERYONE needs to take it on the chin and do the right thing and intergrate something besides staple. I am hopeful and happy that some of yall are trying to make this profession right again so lets do it at every angle. Staple does nothing. Of course I'm just wishing.
Carry on
Comparing the merging of lists at your conglomerate of regionals to merging of regional + majors is apples to oranges.
#74
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If management were to make a choice tomorrow to merge all the regional airlines into Delta there would not be a staple. The list would have to follow ALPA merger policy. That without any question would lead to binding arbitration.
#75
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How is that fair though? I would fall in front of a Delta guy hired two days ago. There's no way my qualifications would allow me to be in that position otherwise.
#76
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And people thought the NW/DL SLI was going to be messy. I can't even imagine this one. But I don't have to, because it will never happen.
#77
Realistically, The only way a integration would even be initiated by the mainline guys would be if the regionals signed a deal to accept a staple. Otherwise it would never get entertained by the majority. IMHO
#78
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There has been only one airline merger where the pilots were onboard from day one. That was NWA-DAL. In the majority of mergers the union is notified by picking up the paper in the morning and reading about it. If the company decides to merge the airlines then merger policy applies unless the company choice to bring us onboard early. Management decides if airlines and seniority lists are to me merged not ALPA.
#79
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do you really think an arbitrator would put the regional pilots ahead of many mainline pilots? I could see them throwing the very senior regional guys a bone and mixing them in with the mainline guys. But of course I think along with that would come a very long fence preventing them from holding any mainline captain seat before they were retired.
Management will never want to integrate the regionals into the mainline. We will have to force it. And the only way you will get the mainline pilots onboard is to accept you will get a staple.
#80
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How is a staple unfair? You're a regional pilot. You should, under NO circumstances, be ahead of a major pilot on a major list unless you are put on that list and someone becomes a newhire at that company after you.
Comparing the merging of lists at your conglomerate of regionals to merging of regional + majors is apples to oranges.
Comparing the merging of lists at your conglomerate of regionals to merging of regional + majors is apples to oranges.
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