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Captain1900 11-03-2009 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 705249)
They run adds every so often looking for a new CP or DO or CI. They're looking to pay 600 a week. That's pathetic.

We were not talking about pay for a DO, CP or a CI. We were talking about pay for a pilot position.

Again, my question: Is $35 to $40 per hour for a pilot, in a Jetstream "pathetic"?


So many of these negative comments sure sound like they could be sour grapes to me.

johnso29 11-08-2009 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Captain1900 (Post 705834)
We were not talking about pay for a DO, CP or a CI. We were talking about pay for a pilot position.

Again, my question: Is $35 to $40 per hour for a pilot, in a Jetstream "pathetic"?

For an FO, no that's not pathetic. For a CA, it's horrible. Should be closer to $50.

Captain1900 11-08-2009 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 708525)
For an FO, no that's not pathetic. For a CA, it's horrible. Should be closer to $50.


In todays economy where most revenues are off 20% to 30%, it would make sense to have the pilot pay off 20% as well. I would expect that.

So if you say $50 per hour for a 19 seat aircraft CA is normal, less 20% to reflect todays economy and market, that would equal $40 per hour. How is that horrible?

Do you not realize we have all be laid off because there is so much "less revenue" at all the carriers?

How can the pay not be adjusted for entry level jobs?

This is the real world not the "I wish world".

johnso29 11-08-2009 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Captain1900 (Post 708580)
In todays economy where most revenues are off 20% to 30%, it would make sense to have the pilot pay off 20% as well. I would expect that.

So if you say $50 per hour for a 19 seat aircraft CA is normal, less 20% to reflect todays economy and market, that would equal $40 per hour. How is that horrible?

Do you not realize we have all be laid off because there is so much "less revenue" at all the carriers?

How can the pay not be adjusted for entry level jobs?

This is the real world not the "I wish world".

No offense intended. The proposed rate was JMO. That may mean something to you, it may mean nothing.

Either way I wish you Good Luck, & hope it works out for you.

Cheers.

travelnate 03-11-2010 08:30 AM

DOT Ruling
 
Apparently DOT is fed up with their lack of response

Small Community Airlines Order 2010-3-13
OST-2005-21822 - Commuter Air Carrier - Dallas Love Field, TX-Lake Charles Regional Airport, LA
Issued and Served March 11, 2010
Order Dismissing Application
By this order, we dismiss the application filed by Small Community Airlines, Inc. for authority to conduct scheduled passenger operations as a commuter air carrier.
Although repeatedly requested by the Department, SCA failed to provide the compliance information required by sections 204.3 (l), (m), (o), (p), and (q) of our rules (14 CFR § 204.3) for each of its new key personnel, information verifying the lines-of-credit and/or cash deposits available to it to support its proposed operations, audited financial statements, and financial information required by sections 204.3(k) of our rules. The applicant also failed to address discrepancies that the Department identified in its historical and projected financial statements.
By: Todd Homan
Index

Mason32 03-11-2010 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Captain1900 (Post 708580)
In todays economy where most revenues are off 20% to 30%, it would make sense to have the pilot pay off 20% as well. I would expect that.

So if you say $50 per hour for a 19 seat aircraft CA is normal, less 20% to reflect todays economy and market, that would equal $40 per hour. How is that horrible?

Do you not realize we have all be laid off because there is so much "less revenue" at all the carriers?

Yes, and that is why they DIDN'T have to cut everybody elses pay....

eventually when you are no longer the junior guy you might understand things a little better.

Your proposition is little more than rationalizing lowering the bar even further. Listen, a professional pilot wage is part of the cost of doing business as an airline....

if you don't value your services, why should they?

go back to school, you're not done yet.

707Driver 03-27-2010 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 777331)
Yes, and that is why they DIDN'T have to cut everybody elses pay....

eventually when you are no longer the junior guy you might understand things a little better.

Your proposition is little more than rationalizing lowering the bar even further. Listen, a professional pilot wage is part of the cost of doing business as an airline....

if you don't value your services, why should they?

go back to school, you're not done yet.

Which union do you work for? Sorry that real life doesn't always match your view of reality. And what does senority have to do with it anyway? Mason32, maybe you need to go back to school and take some Mgt and economics classes


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