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Riddler 04-07-2009 03:54 PM

Atlantic Plus-Plus - CAL/UAL/Lufty/Air Canada
 
Continental can join Star Alliance and form joint venture, DOT says - Houston Business Journal:

The Joint Venture cancer is spreading - now CAL, UAL, Air Canada, and Lufthansa are entering trans-atlantic joint venture and revenue sharing. UAL has already set the stage with its IAD-Madrid "United" flights using Shamrock A330s and unknown pilots. It's only a matter of time before we see an Uzbekistani Captain in command of a Lufthansa 747-400 flying as "Continetal XXX" from Frankfurt to Toronto, codesharing with WestJet and providing feed to Southwest (by then a wholly owned subsidiary of GoJet).

Am I overreacting? Someone please say so.

CALFO 04-07-2009 07:00 PM

I think that you are overreacting. This is the whole point of an airline alliance. These alliances have been around for a long time. NWA/KLM for instance. As pilots, we all need to keep our guard up when it comes to job outsourcing, but I don't that that this announcement in itself will lead to more outsourcing.

Squeegee man 04-07-2009 09:03 PM

The UAL and CAL pilots are about to get it in the shorts.

contrail67 04-08-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Squeegee man (Post 592591)
The UAL and CAL pilots are about to get it in the shorts.


How is that?

Bucking Bar 04-08-2009 04:17 PM

Other than CAL and Luthansia, who else are strong long term players?

UAL and Air Canda have great employees, but their management is far below average.

Martin404 04-08-2009 04:33 PM

Now with CAL in the "Star and Sickle" Alliance Lufthansa can sell out jetblue to DAL.

They do have 2 seats on B6 board and I feel they were using B6 to whip-sal CAL management.

scrapdog 04-08-2009 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 593102)
UAL and Air Canda have great employees, but their management is far below average.

...............

alvrb211 04-11-2009 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Martin404 (Post 593110)
Now with CAL in the "Star and Sickle" Alliance Lufthansa can sell out jetblue to DAL.

They do have 2 seats on B6 board and I feel they were using B6 to whip-sal CAL management.


I don't see DAL getting past antitrust laws to buy another US Major.

AL

Free Bird 04-11-2009 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 594278)
I don't see DAL getting past antitrust laws to buy another US Major.

I don't think Delta wants JB. And antitrust wouldn't be an issue if there was little to no route overlap.

alvrb211 04-11-2009 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 594284)
I don't think Delta wants JB. And antitrust wouldn't be an issue if there was little to no route overlap.


Antitrust would be an issue for sure. I think Lufthansa would be more likely to buy more of Jetblue.

AL


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