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virgin america
how much time is left?
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Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602082)
how much time is left?
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Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602082)
how much time is left?
If you want to bash somebody bash Ted Kennedy who took the lead on deregulating the airlines and Carter for signing the act. BTW, TK did say years later that deregulating the airlines was a big mistake. |
Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602082)
how much time is left?
How much time is left with your job? :confused: |
Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602082)
how much time is left?
Are they still actively interviewing and hiring? are they the only stand alone airline hiring? had a conversation with a buddie yesterday who also is looking for a job, he mentioned they have been the only outfit hiring in this range over the past 3 months. The problem is the numbers don't lie, and that goes for every airline. simple math, revenue - expense = maybe a job for a while. They have a great product, everyone was very nice and professional when I flew on them last year. If they can maintain and fuel remains lower they could pull it off. |
you are right jetjock...flying charters out of myrtle beach has been done before. somehow i don't think "Direct Air" was richard branson's vision when he hired fred reid. what's next...gambling junkets in tunica?
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Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602407)
you are right jetjock...flying charters out of myrtle beach has been done before. somehow i don't think "Direct Air" was richard branson's vision when he hired fred reid. what's next...gambling junkets in tunica?
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Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602082)
how much time is left?
Till we start SNA? Tomorrow, the 29th. Till our first three guys go to star fleet academy? Don't know, maybe soon. Till SRB let's me have full use of Nekker Island for my next vacation? He hasn't gotten back to me on that one yet... |
Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602082)
how much time is left?
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I heard jetblue is going to fix that foreign ownership issue for VA.
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gosh darn it fred...you misspelled neckar island.
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Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 603004)
gosh darn it fred...you misspelled neckar island.
Good one, touche! |
Originally Posted by Raptor01
(Post 602814)
I heard jetblue is going to fix that foreign ownership issue for VA.
I asked in a very nice manner!:eek: Barney |
Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 602082)
how much time is left?
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and howz Jet Blue going to resolve it,maybe they will need a lot of help from Lufthansa in this regard.
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I hope this is viewed as a legitimate question. What is the status on legal battle over foreign ownership? My intent is not to stir the pot, just wondering what facts are out their right now.
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Originally Posted by FLEX
(Post 604105)
I hope this is viewed as a legitimate question. What is the status on legal battle over foreign ownership? My intent is not to stir the pot, just wondering what facts are out their right now.
Alaska, AFA and ALPA have filed a complaint, claiming defacto foreign ownership. VA responded the DOT show cause order has pre approved change of control provisions which are being followed. There are links out there with the official DOT filings if you are really bored and want the details. Not much else is public. I don't know any more than that and if I did I wouldn't be posting it anyway. |
Originally Posted by A320 Pilot
(Post 603772)
Hey kid,this forum is meant for mature adults,who let you in,maybe your daddy forgot to logout.Now like a good kid go back and play before you end up gettin some well deserved spanking:D:D
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Originally Posted by A320 Pilot
(Post 603773)
and howz Jet Blue going to resolve it,maybe they will need a lot of help from Lufthansa in this regard.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 604591)
That's good stuff and I'm not even a VA fan.
"Lufthansa invested approx. $300 million for a 19% stake in JetBlue: If I'm not mistaken, foreign ownership has to be below 50%, so how does that relate at all to VA being owned almost 100% by a foreign entity? Just curious before we start saying both situations are the same. Didn't KLM have a similar stake in NWA as Lufthansa does in JetBlue? |
Originally Posted by tpersuit
(Post 604745)
I'm not sure how they relate. I have no dog in this fight, but on APC this is what it says about Lufhansa:
"Lufthansa invested approx. $300 million for a 19% stake in JetBlue: If I'm not mistaken, foreign ownership has to be below 50%, so how does that relate at all to VA being owned almost 100% by a foreign entity? Just curious before we start saying both situations are the same. Didn't KLM have a similar stake in NWA as Lufthansa does in JetBlue? How do you figure "VA being owned almost 100% by a foreign entity?..." It is (I believe) 49% owned and 25% controlled. All within the limits of Federal law. Skipper |
Originally Posted by tzskipper
(Post 604817)
How do you figure "VA being owned almost 100% by a foreign entity?..."
It is (I believe) 49% owned and 25% controlled. All within the limits of Federal law. Skipper I really don't want to say VA is in the wrong here, I was just pointing out the comparison between Jetblue and VA doesn't seem to hold much water, since Jetblue has 19% foreign ownership while VA had 49% and now appears to have close to 100% now. |
The key word is "owned".
Again, the devil is in the details. There was a change of control protocol or provision in the DOT show cause order (DOT telling the world you qualify for a certificate). You will have to read the docket yourself for the details. The argument right now is Virgin saying the change of ownership provisions are being adhered to, in response to Alaska, AFA and ALPA protesting the original provisions themselves. The DOT can take any amount of time figuring this out, and can decide to deal with this in private or public. So far there has been no public info from the DOT on their progress. If the DOT decides to reverse themselves, there is an appeal process, then the court system to rule before any new order can be enforced. This could take a long time, so stock up on beer and popcorn. |
Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone
(Post 604886)
The key word is "owned".
Again, the devil is in the details. There was a change of control protocol or provision in the DOT show cause order (DOT telling the world you qualify for a certificate). You will have to read the docket yourself for the details. The argument right now is Virgin saying the change of ownership provisions are being adhered to, in response to Alaska, AFA and ALPA protesting the original provisions themselves. The DOT can take any amount of time figuring this out, and can decide to deal with this in private or public. So far there has been no public info from the DOT on their progress. If the DOT decides to reverse themselves, there is an appeal process, then the court system to rule before any new order can be enforced. This could take a long time, so stock up on beer and popcorn. What about the rumor of SRB becoming a US citizen? That would please all those who have been running him down, but would be par for the course, looking at his past. |
I would believe the one about the tooth fairy being real before I believed SRB getting US citizenship.
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
(Post 604821)
This whole situation is about VA being owned 100% by a foreign entity. They were owned 49% by a foreign entity. Aren't I correct that the 2 majority owners of VA asked for their investment back? Thus making the foreing ownership close to 100% now.
I really don't want to say VA is in the wrong here, I was just pointing out the comparison between Jetblue and VA doesn't seem to hold much water, since Jetblue has 19% foreign ownership while VA had 49% and now appears to have close to 100% now. |
what is VA doing in MYR?
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Originally Posted by taylorjets
(Post 607208)
what is VA doing in MYR?
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Yes, it is...I noticed a direct air logo on their right side today.
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welcome to the bottom va...gambling junkets in tunica it is...or maybe atlantic city. you could always fly "contracts for tony perez" to san juan but it remains seasonal. don't forget con-air from oak city, but before you board ms13 gang members back to honduras...please study critical terrain charts in central and south america. i assume you got route 2 in fmc. good luck.
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I can't decide if you guys are just uninformed, or just dumb as a bag of hammers. For people that seem to be all up in somebody else's business... ie Virgin dudes and dudettes, you don't do much research do you? This has been covered for months and months... VA took over the Direct Air after Jet Blue quit doing it... about a year ago.
Mind your own business, get a clue, get a life, and stop trying to bag on others doing the same. Wow... that felt good. |
04Q2008:
Revenue: $110mil Operating Loss: -$27.0mil Net Loss: -$36.9mil CASM:11.1 RASM: 9.0 Yield: 10.5 Source: DOT |
Originally Posted by Cactusone
(Post 608798)
04Q2009:
Revenue: $110mil Operating Loss: -$24.0mil Net Loss: -$36.9mil CASM:11.1 RASM: 9.0 Yield: 10.5 Source: DOT |
you could always fly "contracts for tony perez" to san juan |
Originally Posted by captjns
(Post 609576)
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time... along with Hap Paretti. Brings back very interesting memories.
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