International Pay
 

Hey anyone,

I'm dissecting this crappy TA that we have now, at Alaska, and I was wondering how this one part of pay matched up with some of you at the other companies....i.e. United, Delta, America, Continental, US, etc. etc....

Does anybody, if not all of you, get international pay (override) when flying into and out of Canada, specifically, from the lower 48.

We, at Alaska, are paid the same when flying into and out of Canada the same as if we stayed domestic for the same time. I was wondering how we stacked up, if at all, with all the rest of you.......

Thanks,

LAXFO

At UPS it's any airport outside the contiguous 48 states. $6.50 for Capts/$4.50 for FOs.

At UAL, same pay anyplace in the world. International per diem is a couple of cents an hour more.

Joe

At American International override pay is $4 for FO and $6 for CA.

We treat Carib, Central and South America, Hawaii, Far East & Europe of course as International.
We do allow JSer's to US Virgin Island (treated as Dom flt except must be Int'l pilots)
One of my UAL friends told me Central and top portion of South America is considered Domestic for pilots.
At American for the last few years they've been mixing alot of domestic into our Caribbean lines and trips. It limits what you can trade for due to one trip now makes you fall under 30 in 7 for line holders and reserve.

Go get em' Alaska!

Do you guys still get a night override?

Thanks!!.........

JetBlue doesn't pay squat for an international overide.

No surprizes there! :rolleyes:


In fact, Jetblue doesn't pay squat Period! :eek:

Stay in school kids!

JJ

FedEx has an override (per flt hour) of $9 for Captains, $7 for F/O and $6 for S/O. Per Diem is slightly higher as well.

Same sub-par wages anywhere in the world with CAL.

Int'l per diem is a few cents more, though still not enough to cover a meal outside of McDonald's in most cities abroad.

Did I mention we have the honor of taking our crew rest back in coach?:cool:

What!:eek: I thought that was a BS rumor. Where are your rest seats on the 757/767?

Thanks
AA

Short answer....Yes & No.

On the B756 there is no designated seat (number) for crew rest like AA has. Once all the upgrades and rev. have been assigned, then the First Class cockpit crew rest seat is assigned. Having been on AA and seen the curtain that the AA guys/gals have, we do not have that at CAL.

If rev and upgrades have checked in full, then the flt deck crew rest is religated to a row of 3 seats in coach....I did not slur, yes COACH. Does it happen?? Yes....very often....No. Been on the equipment for 2 1/2 yrs doing mostly "x'ings", and have been in coach on rest 3 times.....3 times too much. I have heard stories of cockpit crew members getting wake up calls from pax asking for another Coke!!! :confused:

We can thank the negociating of Contact POS '02 for this little "beny". This is unacceptable and can be quite the safety issue. This is something that supposedly the neg. comm. is working on as we speak in the contract that is being presently being negociated.

As far as Int'l over-ride at CAL....what's that???:rolleyes:

When I flew CAL from BCN-EWR a few years ago the pilots took their breaks in 1F on the 757... not sure about the 767.

Go to work Flyer!

For Delta, International pay does not include Canada.

“International operation” means a flight segment to or from an airport, or between airports, located outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States.
Exception: A flight segment to or from an airport located in Canada or Alaska will not be considered an international operation.

International pay is:

Captain $5.20
First Officer $3.90

Effective 1/1/2010:

Captain $6.00
First Officer $4.00

That's also for anywhere outside the 48 contiguous states...
Z

Thanks everybody,

Looks like we're right there with you on Canada, not included in international (not sure why) pay. Mexico is but Canada not, any ideas?????

Our International override will be going to (when this thing passes):

Captain $5.00/hr
First Officer $ 4.00/hr

Thanks again for clearing the fog in my head.

LAXFO