Originally Posted by seven6 (Post 614762)

Time to contact the DOT?

Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler (Post 616780)

Scope clauses are fine, but they have to be practical. The main mistake the major airline pilots have made with regional pilots is to paint them as the bad guys and push to keep them out of the major airline club. If mainline pilots gave their regional airline partners an incentive to work with them instead of competing against them, there results might be more satisfying.

Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 613333)

As a United furloughee, I find it ironic that NOW they want to fight outsourcing, after 50% of their domestic flying, and almost half their fleet is gone or going.

Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler (Post 616780)

Scope clauses are fine, but they have to be practical. The main mistake the major airline pilots have made with regional pilots is to paint them as the bad guys and push to keep them out of the major airline club. If mainline pilots gave their regional airline partners an incentive to work with them instead of competing against them, there results might be more satisfying.

Originally Posted by Klako (Post 616389)

Scope Clauses are unconstitutional, a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act.:cool:

Originally Posted by seven6 (Post 614762)

The Senate does not have an official role in granting antitrust immunity. However, I will continue to monitor this situation as the DOT considers this measure further. You may also wish to consider contacting the DOT at http://www.dot.gov/contact.html to share your views.

Time to contact the DOT?

Originally Posted by Wheels up (Post 618861)

The major's pilots groups don't negotiate your contracts. Heck, the majors do a crappy job of negotiating theirs . . witness the last sweetheart contract that DALPA gave Anderson. YOU negotiate YOUR contract. While it was a big mistake to grant any scope exceptions at all a long time ago (and way before I had any say in it), that's water over the dam now. The truth is now, YOU keep YOURSELF out of what you call the major airline club because YOU negotiate crappy contracts and are willing to work cheaper than the majors. If the regional unions made themselves not cost effective to run as separate operations, then they'd be folded into mainline carriers. If you want to blame someone now, blame your fellow regional pilots at Mesa, Republic, GO, etc etc etc. Oh, and BTW that's exactly the reason the regionals have to hire 200-hour pilot-mill wonders.

If you're waiting for the majors' unions to do your job for you, you're going to be waiting a long time. Why? Because they can't. The concessions that ALL employee groups at the majors would have to make are unsaleable. So quit whinning and get to work making your own contract expensive enough to entice the major airline to want to fold it into mainline.