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Originally Posted by 2Co2Fur1EXwife (Post 618899)

Ex-Friends Say Armstrong Admitted Drug Use : NPR

Tour de France 2008: Abt on Armstrong doping allegations

........and about 100 other

From the "source" you just provided:
"Abt had a chance to talk to David Walsh, one of the book's authors, and Walsh admitted "there is no smoking gun in the extract or in the full book to prove that Armstrong, a 32-year-old Texan, engaged in doping."

Amazing… If a person passes his or her FAA check ride and later you end up flying with that person would you refuse the trip because your captain's/copilot's "Ex-Friend” says that way back when he/she did some drinking while in college?

Seriously, let the professionals deal with determining his “guilt” - so far he's been proven innocent and last time I checked you're presumed innocent until proven guilty, correct?

His charity has done wonderful things for cancer victims - why that hate? Are you Sheryl Crow? :D

(Kidding, they're still good friends)

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Originally Posted by solinator (Post 629363)

First, thanks to all your posts regarding the issue of free speech. I appreciate your comments. I actually think you guys are right in the sense that a private company can and should uphold their rules and regulations. Especially when the profession REQUIRES one to be an absolute professional. Pilots are responsible for the safety of so many lives as you guys fly us from one place to another. Sometimes, I can't believe you guys do what you do in such a calm manner; it'd be a wreck!

There are, I believe, certain things that take priority, like being a professional--a professional pilot, a professional doctor--when it requires it. In this case, the lady pilot wanted to stand up for her rights, which I admire. But I can see that when it comes to it, she also needed to act professional and maintain discipline. I guess what I am trying to say is, there are times for that and not in the "operating room" when it's less appropriate and your personal stand on an issue should not take priority over safety and the decorum of your profession. Do I think the CO did the wrong thing by kicking her out? I think he too should have maintained discipline and could have just talked to her AFTER the flight (e.g. the operation), where it was more appropriate. The task at hand was, in my humble opinion, to safely get those passengers from point A to B. Was what he did distasteful? In my opinion, yes, because in the grand scheme of things, is wearing that "silly" band that big of a deal that he had to kick her out of the plane? As a passenger and if I saw this happening on my flight, I would've questioned his professionalism. She on the other hand, although courageous, could have chosen a better way to get her views and opinions across--at least a more appropriate time.

577nitro's post that made me realize this as I was reading it...

Anyway, thanks to all of you for being professional and providing good feedback... I would have been kicked out in other forums. :)

From what I know (Or, from what I have heard), I think she did the right thing, by putting that bully in his place. He and others like him will think twice about trying to force someone to conform to their own appearance standards. Kudos to her. :)

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 629783)

...I think she did the right thing, by putting that bully in his place. He and others like him will think twice about trying to force someone to conform to their own appearance standards...

I am amazed that the facts still seem to be escaping forum members and readers. Mired within C.A.L. pilot ranks are those who are deeply opposed to any activity that attempts to better the lot of pilots lives.

This spat has absolutely nothing to do with appearance standards. Rather it was the bumping of heads of radically differing belief sets, philosophies on union activity and how aggresive pilots should be when it comes to asking for, or demanding increased compensation. Career line pilots all too often think that "management" is the only thumb of oppression. In this case however it seems that even one of our own (a union committee member?!) and line pilot acted on the belief that a First Officer has neither, right to opinion, nor right of expression.

Apathy? Hardly. This behavior is a textbook case of just how polarized C.A.L. pilots are on the topic of representation. To move forward, C.A.L. unionists will have to drag these people along. C.A.L. management laughs.:mad: