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Strike
Originally Posted by Joachim
(Post 625356)
Nobody needs to give up their dream. The ones who have not started and have nothing invested will have few choices other than the military which may be a good thing. The ones that will lose their jobs will be the ones with low seniority, including myself. Understand that an increase in airline pay is likely to raise the pay levels of other parts of the industry as well. I'll find something else to do. A piston frieght job closer to home that pays at or above regional pay, is probably what i'll find.
Things can get better if we are free to strike. See the above thread about Fedex. You cannot stop the flood of pilots. Do you rember the 90's? Requirements were higher and pay was even lower than now. What we can do is fight for legal change. I think the Railway Labor Act is a good place to start. . The public already has it in for pilots. If we were to hold the nation hostage through a strike then they would open the country up for international airlines to fly domestic routes. The only way to effectively strike is to make a stand on an individual basis. The industry needs to decay to the point where pilots begin to leave in droves and new pilots are dissuaded from entering the profession. However all that will do is to determine where the bottom is. Every profession has its time in the sun. At one time pilots were a rare breed of near astronaut caliber of skills and abilities. Today they are trained from zero to hero in 90 days. It doesn't take a Chuck Yeager to pilot an airliner anymore. Pilots fly automated computers. Almost anyone can do it. You can't fight that. The value is gone. I am already on strike. Skyhigh |
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
(Post 625309)
I agree. Lets get back on track.
You mentioned in your beginning post that the industry needs to shrink. Who do you propose be the ones to give up their dream? Should the newest pilots be pushed out? What about those who can not keep up with the demands of the career such as family men and women? Perhaps A fair method of sorting pilots out could be to lower wages and make the working conditions as miserable as possible so that only the truly committed are able to hang on? It seems to me that the inevitable conclusion will be a profession that is a war of attrition. Perhaps it already is. How can things be made better? Figure out a way to stop the flood of pilots. Until then we are our own worst enemy. Skyhigh A few years ago, when credit was easy to obtain, anyone who could fog a mirror could get a $70,000 loan to go to ABC Academy and be a pilot in short order. The resulting flood of applicants to the regionals that emerged from this period of growth continued unabated until early 2008. As the economy continued (continues?) to descent into the worst economic cirsis in a generation, sources of funding for pilot education have evaporated. No longer can one waltz into a bank, get a $70,000 check, and go from zero to hero in 90 days. The economy has essentially created a funding shortage for student pilots. A natural consequence of this shortage is less pilots training at this time. The economic cycle has begun to correct its previous excesses. It still possible to become an airline pilot, but it has become a longer road for the "truly committed." It is harder to finance training, harder to find a job, and a significantly longer wait to enter a 121 airline cockpit. Yet, for the sincerely determined, it can be done. If the economy and credit crisis have not managed to entirely stop the "flood of pilots," it certainly has built an impressive dam. Perhaps we are witnessing the beginning of a pilot drought. With fewer entrants to the profession and age 65 retirements looming, are we on the verge of a career renaissance when the economy rebounds? Hopefully so. Until then, we can only speculate. But one thing is for sure...aviation will always be there for the "truly committed." |
When I started
Originally Posted by Florida Flyer
(Post 626763)
A few years ago, when credit was easy to obtain, anyone who could fog a mirror could get a $70,000 loan to go to ABC Academy and be a pilot in short order. The resulting flood of applicants to the regionals that emerged from this period of growth continued unabated until early 2008. As the economy continued (continues?) to descent into the worst economic cirsis in a generation, sources of funding for pilot education have evaporated. No longer can one waltz into a bank, get a $70,000 check, and go from zero to hero in 90 days. The economy has essentially created a funding shortage for student pilots.
A natural consequence of this shortage is less pilots training at this time. The economic cycle has begun to correct its previous excesses. It still possible to become an airline pilot, but it has become a longer road for the "truly committed." It is harder to finance training, harder to find a job, and a significantly longer wait to enter a 121 airline cockpit. Yet, for the sincerely determined, it can be done. If the economy and credit crisis have not managed to entirely stop the "flood of pilots," it certainly has built an impressive dam. Perhaps we are witnessing the beginning of a pilot drought. With fewer entrants to the profession and age 65 retirements looming, are we on the verge of a career renaissance when the economy rebounds? Hopefully so. Until then, we can only speculate. But one thing is for sure...aviation will always be there for the "truly committed." Aviation will always be there for the "truly committed." A true statement, but lately its meaning has changed to being, those in aviation need to be "truly committed" to the mental hospital". :) SKyhigh |
I think we all need to take 2weeks off around thanksgiving, that would get everyone attention. If we have enough people willing to lace up the gloves this is a fight that could easily be won.
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