USAir 1549 NTSB Hearings (news articles)
 

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the great sully violated sterile cockpit? imposible...

So, Doreen opened the door? Oh well, I can't say that all my actions would be perfect after a forced ditching. Good thing nobody got killed that day.

Saying, "Wow, what a nice river" on climbout is a sterile cockpit violation?

I'd give her a pass on opening the door..she didn't know they doing a water arrival. But she apparently lied about it later to CYA...

Maybe that was he way of picking out potential forced landing sites and bringing the F/Os attention to such a spot :D (the glass is half full).

USMCFLYR

The great 'Sully' did more than violate the sterile cockpit. Wait for the FDR data release. He never pushed the thrust levers up after the bird strike to see if there was more power available. Also, heard the restart they attempted was out of sequence.

Leave the Monday morning quarterbacking to the News "experts" you honestly want to hammer on his non checklist driven response to a DUAL ENGINE FLAME OUT at LOW altitude?? I think his outcome was good....probably much better than the guy who focused on the checklist until impact with god knows what.

you cant be serious....

I didn't say that I would do anything different. I'm not "Monday morning quarterbacking."

Who would have time to run a checklist in that situation anyway. I said nothing about running checklists.

When the all the facts are released, are we going to bash the NTSB for "Monday morning quarterbacking" with their findings?

Ouch, man...and what was he supposed to do about AutoThrust?

Ever flown the 319/320?

For the USAirways airbus guys, go you takeoff with the APU off or running?

I agree. The end justified the means---all onboard survived. Besides, they did what they were supposed to do in a bad situation: They FLEW the airplane.

Always AFTER THE FACT are they quick to point out what people did "wrong". Let's see any of those HYPOCRITES do a better job themselves when under that kind of pressure! This is the problem with having a job that is in the crosshairs of the media and the general sheep.

Absolutely, and that's something that has been lost in this thirst for automation...

I saw on the good morning express with robin meade (who is hot by the way) that "someone" did a study and took 8 airbus pilots and put them in a simulator and gave them the same scenario as FLT 1549 and only ONE of the eight landed successfully. Take it for what its worth.

Anyone have the full transcripts? Ie., from engine start to the "landing."

Chucky, thanks. You da man. :)

Are you sure there was a "dual engine flame out"?

Stop monday morning quarterbacking, please. It's unbecoming of yourself and our profession.

Everyone survived the ditching that was unexpected and time critical. Props to Sully.

I'd rather get everything wrong and have a successful outcome than everything right and fail.

FUNNY!

HOT-2
wonder how the Northwest and Delta pilots are
gettin on.
15:06:47
HOT-1
I wonder about that too, I have no idea.
15:07:01
CAM
[sound similar to power interruption]
15:07:01
CAM
[sound similar to increase in engine
noise/frequency]
15:07:04
HOT-1
yeah hopefully better than we and West do.
15:07:11
HOT-2
be hard to do worse.
15:07:13
HOT-1
yeah... well I hadn't heard much about it lately
but I can't imagine it'd be any better.
15:07:20
HOT-2
I think that's just cause we're separate..... and
there's nothing going on right now.

Bottom line:
Sully's a bad ass. I'd buy him a beer...I'd buy them both a beer.

Sully has zero integrity, he's not welcomed on any west jumpseats. You cheerleaders are in for a big surprise.

You would think grown men, with all their infinite experience and wisdom, would act their age and not play pre-school politics with each other... but then again what do I know? I'm just a young inexperienced regional guy.

Nah, you are just misinformed, on the other hand I have transcripts of the great sully and skiles, Sully shows he has no integrity, and Skiles perjures himself. Actually we should by those two a beer, as they helped usapa lose a dfr case in record time.

Are you even a pilot? I'm starting to wonder.

Give it a rest. You've already ruined your own credibility on these boards, now you're just digging the whole deeper.

My credibility? you are joking right, if telling the truth is digging a hole so be it.

Kinda funny though, when Skiles calls the controller an "Idiot!".

Thanks for the link...for some reason it's not working. Any chance someone could copy and paste it if ya have it?

The ntsb site is down, here is the part that Cactiboss, obviously, didn't read. Apparently, he is more concerned with voicing his support in denying an east pilot the jumpseat, for words exchanged between two pilots, on a CVR.

Way to keep issues of safety at the forefront.:rolleyes:



At 15:25:09 TOGA (takeoff thrust) is set and a normal departure commenced for 2 minutes, then:
15:27:10.4 HOT-1: birds.
15:27:11.0 HOT-2: whoa.
15:27:11.4 CAM: [sound of thump/thud(s) followed by shuddering sound]
15:27:12.0 HOT-2: oh #.
15:27:13.0 HOT-1: oh yeah.
15:27:13.0 CAM: [sound similar to decrease in engine noise/frequency begins]
15:27:14.0 HOT-2: uh oh.
15:27:15.0 HOT-1: we got one rol- both of 'em rolling back.
15:27:18.0 CAM: [rumbling sound begins and continues until approximately 15:28:08]
15:27:18.5 HOT-1: ignition, start.
15:27:21.3 HOT-1: I'm starting the APU.15:27:22.4 FWC: [sound of single chime]
15:27:23.2 HOT-1: my aircraft.
15:27:24.0 HOT-2: your aircraft.
15:27:24.4 FWC: [sound of single chime]
15:27:25.0 CAM: [sound similar to electrical noise from engine igniters begins]
15:27:26.5 FWC: priority left. [auto callout from the FWC. this occurs when the sidestick priority button is activated on the Captain's sidestick]
15:27:26.5 FWC: [sound of single chime]
15:27:28.0 CAM: [sound similar to electrical noise from engine igniters ends]
15:27:28.0 HOT-1: get the QRH... [Quick Reference Handbook] loss of thrust on both engines.
15:27:30.0 FWC: [sound of single chime begins and repeats at approximately 5.7 second intervals until 15:27:59]
15:27:32.9 RDO-1: mayday mayday mayday. uh this is uh Cactus fifteen thirty nine hit birds, we've lost thrust (in/on) both engines we're turning back towards LaGuardia.
15:27:42.0 DEP: ok uh, you need to return to LaGuardia? turn left heading of uh two two zero.
15:27:43.0 CAM: [sound similar to electrical noise from engine igniters begins]
15:27:44.0 FWC: [sound of single chime, between the single chimes at 5.7 second intervals
15:27:46.0 RDO-1: two two zero.
15:27:50.0 HOT-2: if fuel remaining, engine mode selector, ignition.* ignition.
15:27:54.0 HOT-1: ignition.
15:27:55.0 HOT-2: thrust levers confirm idle.
15:27:58.0 HOT-1: idle.
15:28:02.0 HOT-2: airspeed optimum relight. three hundred knots. we don't have that.
15:28:03.0 FWC: [sound of single chime]
15:28:05.0 HOT-1: we don't.
15:28:05.0 DEP: Cactus fifteen twenty nine, if we can get it for you do you want to try to land runway one three?
15:28:05.0 CAM-2: if three nineteen-
15:28:10.6 RDO-1: we're unable. we may end up in the Hudson.
15:28:14.0 HOT-2: emergency electrical power... emergency generator not online.
15:28:18.0 CAM: [sound similar to electrical noise from engine igniters ends]
15:28:19.0 HOT-1: (it’s/is) online.
15:28:21.0 HOT-2: ATC notify. squawk seventy seven hundred.
15:28:25.0 HOT-1: yeah. the left one's coming back up a little bit.
15:28:30.0 HOT-2: distress message, transmit. we did.
15:28:31.0 DEP: arright Cactus fifteen forty nine its gonna be left traffic for runway three one.
15:28:35.0 RDO-1: unable.
15:28:36.0 TCAS: traffic traffic.
15:28:36.0 DEP: okay, what do you need to land?
15:28:37.0 HOT-2: (he wants us) to come in and land on one three...for whatever.
15:28:45.0 PWS: go around. windshear ahead.
15:28:45.0 HOT-2: FAC [Flight Augmentation Computer] one off, then on.
15:28:46.0 DEP: Cactus fifteen (twenty) nine runway four's available if you wanna make left traffic to runway four.
15:28:49.9 RDO-1: I'm not sure we can make any runway. uh what's over to our right anything in New Jersey maybe Teterboro?
15:28:55.0 DEP: ok yeah, off your right side is Teterboro airport.
15:28:59.0 TCAS: monitor vertical speed.
15:29:00.0 HOT-2: no relight after thirty seconds, engine master one and two confirm-15:29:02.0 DEP: you wanna try and go to Teterboro?
15:29:03.0 RDO-1: yes.
15:29:05.0 TCAS: clear of conflict.
15:29:07.0 HOT-2: -off.
15:29:07.0 HOT-1: off.
15:29:10.0 HOT-2: wait thirty seconds.
15:29:11.0 PA-1: this is the Captain brace for impact.
15:29:14.9 GPWS: one thousand.
15:29:16.0 HOT-2: engine master two, back on.
15:29:18.0 HOT-1: back on.
15:29:19.0 HOT-2: on.
15:29:21.0 DEP: Cactus fifteen twenty nine turn right two eight zero, you can land runway one at Teterboro.
15:29:21.0 CAM-2: is that all the power you got? * (wanna) number one? or we got power on number one.
15:29:25.0 RDO-1: we can't do it.
15:29:26.0 HOT-1: go ahead, try number one.
15:29:27.0 DEP: kay which runway would you like at Teterboro?
15:29:27.0 FWC: [sound of continuous repetitive chime for 9.6 seconds]
15:29:28.0 RDO-1: we're gonna be in the Hudson.
15:29:33.0 DEP: I'm sorry say again Cactus?
15:29:36.0 HOT-2: I put it back on.
15:29:37.0 FWC: [sound of continuous repetitive chime for 37.4 seconds ]
15:29:37.0 HOT-1: ok put it back on... put it back on.
15:29:37.0 GPWS: too low. terrain.
15:29:41.0 GPWS: too low. terrain.
15:29:43.0 GPWS: too low. terrain.
15:29:44.0 HOT-2: no relight.
15:29:45.4 HOT-1: ok lets go put the flaps out, put the flaps out.
15:29:45.0 EGPWS: caution. terrain.
15:29:48.0 EGPWS: caution terrain.
15:29:48.0 HOT-2: flaps out?
15:29:49.0 EGPWS: terrain terrain. pull up. pull up.
15:29:51.0 DEP: Cactus uh....
15:29:53.0 DEP: Cactus fifteen forty nine radar contact is lost you also got Newark airport off your two o'clock in about seven miles.
15:29:55.0 EGPWS: pull up. pull up. pull up. pull up. pull up. pull up.
15:30:01.0 HOT-2: got flaps out.
15:30:03.0 HOT-2: two hundred fifty feet in the air.
15:30:04.0 GPWS: too low. terrain.
15:30:06.0 GPWS: too low. gear.
15:30:06.0 CAM-2: hundred and seventy knots.
15:30:09.0 CAM-2: got no power on either one? try the other one.
15:30:09.0 4718: two one zero uh forty seven eighteen. I think he said he's goin in the Hudson. 15:30:11.0 HOT-1: try the other one.
15:30:13.0 EGPWS: caution terrain.
15:30:14.0 DEP: Cactus fifteen twenty nine uh, you still on?
15:30:15.0 FWC: [sound of continuous repetitive chime begins and continues to end of recording]15:30:15.0 EGPWS: caution terrain.
15:30:16.0 HOT-2: hundred and fifty knots.
15:30:17.0 HOT-2: got flaps two, you want more?
15:30:19.0 HOT-1: no lets stay at two.
15:30:21.0 HOT-1: got any ideas?
15:30:22.0 DEP: Cactus fifteen twenty nine if you can uh....you got uh runway uh two nine available at Newark it'll be two o'clock and seven miles.
15:30:23.0 EGPWS: caution terrain.
15:30:23.0 CAM-2: actually not.
15:30:24.0 EGPWS: terrain terrain. pull up. pull up. ["pull up" repeats until the end of the recording]
15:30:38.0 HOT-1: we're gonna brace.
15:30:38.0 HOT-2: * * switch?
15:30:40.0 HOT-1: yes.
15:30:41.1 GPWS: (fifty or thirty)
15:30:42.0 FWC: retard.
15:30:43.7 [End of Recording]
15:30:43.7 [End of Transcript]

Yes, your credibility...as in; you have zero.

Every post you've made since you've been on APC has been anti East....many of which are mindlessly written.

Tuenandburn, another smart one heh? who said anything about those transcripts? I was referring to transcripts from federal district court. But I can chat about those transcripts you posted, what happen after toga and before the birds were hit? why is that info missing? and even more important what's your point.

Ah the truth hurts, and yes I am anti east, never said I wasn't, or did I imply otherwise? Did you miss my handle? The east has been the pariahs of airline pilots forever, and always will be. Just ask anyone involved with the u/ual merger, heck any pilot group in this industry would rather burn down their company than merge with original us east, ask around.