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ZDub 06-18-2009 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 630798)
the correlation is there are more caring, intelligent people behind the counter at Burger King than some of our Flight attendants.........

put two and two together "champ"............................

Thanks for the math lesson. Since you skipped over the question, I'll ask again, how does the rate of pay and woking conditions correlate to the quality of a human being? I'll give you that at the given rate of pay, the ability to attract qualified, compassionate employees is strained. BUT....I'm still at a loss as to how you judge the quality of a man/woman based on thier rate of pay.

BTW, we all know that two and two equal three....duh.....

RoughLandings 06-18-2009 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by sydney5316 (Post 630069)
“...it’s the neglect that they showed my child.”

As opposed to the neglect you showed by sending your kid all the way across the country by him/herself to be taken care of by strangers???

JoeyMeatballs 06-18-2009 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by ZDub (Post 630804)
Thanks for the math lesson. Since you skipped over the question, I'll ask again, how does the rate of pay and woking conditions correlate to the quality of a human being? I'll give you that at the given rate of pay, the ability to attract qualified, compassionate employees is strained. BUT....I'm still at a loss as to how you judge the quality of a man/woman based on thier rate of pay.

BTW, we all know that two and two equal three....duh.....

IS this a serious question?

I did not say people should be judged by their W-2's, however the job conditions, as well as salary of most gate agents, and flight attendants usually attracts those individuals who lack an education to obtain a higher paying job.........You might want to pick up a Sociology book sometime.

If I judged people by their income then I would have no respect for myself, after all I make $34.46/hr ;)

JetFlyer06 06-18-2009 06:45 AM

Check out this UM routing I saw the other day...

HNL-MSP-DTW-ORF

The kid made it all the way to ORF and puked on the taxi in (all over the galley). What moronic parents to send a kid that far on his own (he looked to be about 10 yrs old).

:)

ZDub 06-18-2009 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 630820)
IS this a serious question?

I did not say people should be judged by their W-2's, however the job conditions, as well as salary of most gate agents, and flight attendants usually attracts those individuals who lack an education to obtain a higher paying job.........You might want to pick up a Sociology book sometime.

If I judged people by their income then I would have no respect for myself, after all I make $34.46/hr ;)

Yeah, it IS. Mea culpa if I didn't clearly pick up your inflection. And thanks, I understand the socital impact that a depressed economy imposes on the labor force, but I'll refresh myself with some Comte and Durkheim a little later in the week.

Sorry if I'm a little cranky and arbitrary, this coffee is weak and the Bushmills was strong last night. You seemed to imply that low pay automatically = low quality people. I hope we all know that not to be true. If I misread, or misinterpreted that, my apologies.

JoeyMeatballs 06-18-2009 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by ZDub (Post 630849)
Yeah, it IS. Mea culpa if I didn't clearly pick up your inflection. And thanks, I understand the socital impact that a depressed economy imposes on the labor force, but I'll refresh myself with some Comte and Durkheim a little later in the week.

Sorry if I'm a little cranky and arbitrary, this coffee is weak and the Bushmills was strong last night. You seemed to imply that low pay automatically = low quality people. I hope we all know that not to be true. If I misread, or misinterpreted that, my apologies.

no problem :)

757Driver 06-18-2009 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 630551)
Maybe the kid should have been wearing a Lance Armstrong type bracelet.....wouldn't have been able to fly the first wrong leg!:D

Now thats funny!

robthree 06-19-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by JetFlyer06 (Post 630827)
Check out this UM routing I saw the other day...

HNL-MSP-DTW-ORF

The kid made it all the way to ORF and puked on the taxi in (all over the galley). What moronic parents to send a kid that far on his own (he looked to be about 10 yrs old).

:)

HNL and ORF both serve major Naval bases, so I'd guess the moronic parent is the one getting deployed for a war cruise.

Helluva' long day for anyone, much less a child traveling alone.


In defense of the gate agents... multiple flights depart from the same doorway, with the jetway dividing about halfway down. It was not modified to that configuration, but purpose built that way for maximum utilization at lower cost. In other words, the agents were set up for failure. Humans being fallible, it was inevitable that this would happen.

A failure occured. Why? Was the agent not competent or stretched too thin? Red Coats work like six to ten departures at the same time, multiple operations from the same podium, multiple gate changes, little or no notice of said changes, little to no backup coverage for sick calls, and regularly work overtime that makes our duty day look like a cake walk. I can easily envision someone walking an UNAM down the jetway, trying to put out a couple other fires, hand the kid & paperwork to the FA (who is wrestling with her own challenges) and never, ever, realize the error.

Or maybe the agent was just too dumb/lazy to read the paperwork. (IMHO, probably not)

Clue32 06-20-2009 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by 11Fan (Post 630651)
Next time, use FedEx.

When it has to absolutely positively has to be there overnight.

I always wondered if it would be cheeper to FedEx myself then to by an airline ticket.

Laughing_Jakal 06-20-2009 08:27 AM

Look for the extra large padded envelope about 6.5 feet tall called the "People Pack" next time you're in a FedEx Kinkos

breaking news - FedEx Introduces Overnight PeoplePak


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