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cubflyer 08-09-2009 01:38 PM

What's going on at AirTran?
 
In ATL today and the ground controller was ill with several citrus flights.....

ATC..."Citrus xxx, do you plan on taxiing at that speed to the runway?"
Citrus xxx..."Yep"
ATC...much frustration....................and the ground controller pulled him out of line and made him wait until the money line cleared.

The "safe taxi" speeds must be getting noticed around ATL.:D

KC10 FATboy 08-09-2009 01:43 PM

There's another thread on this somewhere. I had to do a go-around because of Air Tran. They are extremely slow at clearing the runway. But after we landed, the ground controllers made them hold short of our ramp and we got in first.

cubflyer 08-09-2009 01:56 PM

Those "wiley" ground controllers seem to be trying to counter-act the effects of the safe taxi speeds. Kinda funny, if you ask me. :p

alfaromeo 08-09-2009 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by cubflyer (Post 659005)
Those "wiley" ground controllers seem to be trying to counter-act the effects of the safe taxi speeds. Kinda funny, if you ask me. :p

I am sorry, but your picture is just flat out wrong.:)

Boogie Nights 08-11-2009 12:53 AM

One or two
 
There is always one or two knuckle heads who decide to protest on their own. Airtran is in contract negotiations. This stuff ushually gets corrrected pretty quick by the flight ops dept. The montra is do your job and fly the contract. I agree but you don't hose your buddy either.

No slam on the controllers but ATL is kinda of a busy place. Go arounds can and do happen often because of spacing. Even when you do what control asks you can still get sent around. My philosophy is "Keep it Moving"

RAHPilot5 08-11-2009 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 659125)
I am sorry, but your picture is just flat out wrong.:)

You must not get out much huh? How the hell do you not know the movie Borat?

The same guy that plays Borat, the avatar picture you see, is the same guy in the movie Bruno out right now.

LIVE IN THE NOW! :D

AtcDude 08-11-2009 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by cubflyer (Post 658998)
In ATL today and the ground controller was ill with several citrus flights.....

ATC..."Citrus xxx, do you plan on taxiing at that speed to the runway?"
Citrus xxx..."Yep"
ATC...much frustration....................and the ground controller pulled him out of line and made him wait until the money line cleared.

The "safe taxi" speeds must be getting noticed around ATL.:D

Unfortunately, the "safe taxi" speeds are being documented by management and being forwarded on.

I don't care if you push the aircraft to the runway, do not "safe taxi" when crossing a runway. Don't risk the safety of others to prove a point.

It is frustrating, often funny, because each pilot's "safe taxi" is different. Note: If you have 4 ramp head start on American and they catch you, you may be going too slow!!!

Be careful guys and gals....

cubflyer 08-12-2009 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by AtcDude (Post 660161)
Unfortunately, the "safe taxi" speeds are being documented by management and being forwarded on.

I don't care if you push the aircraft to the runway, do not "safe taxi" when crossing a runway. Don't risk the safety of others to prove a point.

It is frustrating, often funny, because each pilot's "safe taxi" is different. Note: If you have 4 ramp head start on American and they catch you, you may be going too slow!!!

Be careful guys and gals....

Not being argumenative, but the FAR/AIM recommends that an aircraft be taxied at the pace of a brisk walk. Maybe everyone else is taxiing too fast????:rolleyes:

I get your point though.....just remember, the FAR's do not address taxiing too slow.

AtcDude 08-12-2009 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by cubflyer (Post 660615)
Not being argumenative, but the FAR/AIM recommends that an aircraft be taxied at the pace of a brisk walk. Maybe everyone else is taxiing too fast????:rolleyes:

I get your point though.....just remember, the FAR's do not address taxiing too slow.


I completely understand. I just don't want to see any pilot lose their job because of this!

Boeing717Driver 08-13-2009 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Boogie Nights (Post 659681)
There is always one or two knuckle heads who decide to protest on their own. Airtran is in contract negotiations. This stuff ushually gets corrrected pretty quick by the flight ops dept. The montra is do your job and fly the contract. I agree but you don't hose your buddy either.

No slam on the controllers but ATL is kinda of a busy place. Go arounds can and do happen often because of spacing. Even when you do what control asks you can still get sent around. My philosophy is "Keep it Moving"

I've been flying in and out of ATL for just under 9 years. I have never done a "go-around' ever in all those years while on approach in ATL. I've seen them, but never done one in ATL. Now BWI, thats another story.

Unless of course you count the one's I've made in the simulator, while in for training or PC/PT's, then thats about 10 or 15 a year...... :cool:

Boeing717Driver


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