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Old 09-06-2009, 04:10 PM   #1  
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American Airlines New York to Miami flight runs out of fuel!
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An American Airlines flight from New York to Miami runs out of fuel and forced to land at Palm Beach International. American Airlines JFK to Miami International Airport emergency landing at Palm Beach International.

Florida aviation accident lawyer news-American Airlines flight low on fuel forces the Boeing 767 to make emergency landing at Palm Beach International Airport.

West Palm Beach, FL–The Palm Beach International Airport reported an American Airlines passenger jet was forced to land at the West Palm Beach airport because of low fuel on Saturday, August 15, 2009. As reported by FOX29 WFLX affiliate in South Florida, an American Airlines Boeing 767 was en route, to Miami from JFK in New York, when it had to land short of its destination because of critically low fuel. There is minimal information about the gas less commercial passenger airplane.

Apparently the 767, a mid-sized wide-body twin jet airliner which can carry between 181 and 375 passengers, landed at Palm Beach International just before 2 p.m., on Saturday. According to Wikipedia Wikipedia, the Boeing 767 has a 5,200 to 6,590 nautical mile range. Various estimates dictate the nautical miles from JFK in New York to Miami International Airport is 948. The American Airlines passenger jet sat for four hours on the runway. It is unknown whether or not the four runway sitting was before take-off from JFK or on the ground at PBIA before proceeding to Miami International Airport. The running out of gas seems rather perplexing. Reports also indicated the plane ran into nasty storms en route to Miami. No reports of passenger injuries at this time.


The American Airlines passenger jet sat for four hours on the runway. Stupid media! It didnt sit on the runway for four hours. But isn't there a 'Minimum Takeoff Fuel' amount listed in the dispatch release?
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But isn't there a 'Minimum Takeoff Fuel' amount listed in the dispatch release?

I'm sure there is, but....

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Reports also indicated the plane ran into nasty storms en route to Miami.
A airborne reroute or holding because maybe Washington Center (or insert any other center here) flipped out and won't take anyone due to everyone having to deviate around storms could end up putting you close on gas if you didn't bring any contingency or extra fuel.
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Another example of irresponsible journalism. Ignorance reporting on the simple subject of aviation.
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Just curious as to why this was posted approx 3 weeks after this incident happened ?
Must be getting cynical in my old age .


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The American Airlines passenger jet sat for four hours on the runway. Stupid media! It didnt sit on the runway for four hours. But isn't there a 'Minimum Takeoff Fuel' amount listed in the dispatch release?
Just to play devil's advocate, I've sat on runway 13L/31R at JFK for more than 3 hours with both engines shut down. They were using the 22s for arrivals and departures and used the 31s/13s as taxiways. There were storms over all the departure fixes so not many flights were getting out.
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This is a nearly illegal end run around the Family Assistance Act. Lawyers are prohibited from soliciting clients for a period after an aviation accident. To get around the restrictions they publish these "news articles" and hope potential aviation clients will contact them.

While there is no money in claims from this fuel diversion, they hope to keep their names out there and keep issues in the public consciousness.

Several factors have really cut down on the earnings of aviation plaintiff attorneys. First, general aviation is the "bread and butter" of aviation litigation since they have more losses and these losses involve more gray areas that provide the uncertainty needed to target a wide variety of potential defendants. General Aviation declined as fuel prices rose and then got hit hard by the downturn.

Then, advanced avionics have contributed a great deal to safety. My small aircraft now has a reliable standby avionics, a basic GPWS and TCAS systems.

The 121 carriers have also had nearly perfect safety records the last few years. Even US Air's Hudson River cruise was handled so expertly there was little opportunity for plaintiff attorneys.

Fewer crashes mean less money for plaintiff attorneys.
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This is a nearly illegal end run around the Family Assistance Act. Lawyers are prohibited from soliciting clients for a period after an aviation accident. To get around the restrictions they publish these "news articles" and hope potential aviation clients will contact them.

While there is no money in claims from this fuel diversion, they hope to keep their names out there and keep issues in the public consciousness.

Several factors have really cut down on the earnings of aviation plaintiff attorneys. First, general aviation is the "bread and butter" of aviation litigation since they have more losses and these losses involve more gray areas that provide the uncertainty needed to target a wide variety of potential defendants. General Aviation declined as fuel prices rose and then got hit hard by the downturn.

Then, advanced avionics have contributed a great deal to safety. My small aircraft now has a reliable standby avionics, a basic GPWS and TCAS systems.

The 121 carriers have also had nearly perfect safety records the last few years. Even US Air's Hudson River cruise was handled so expertly there was little opportunity for plaintiff attorneys.

Fewer crashes mean less money for plaintiff attorneys.
I did not even notice the source. Good pickup and that is pretty interesting analysis.
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Just to play devil's advocate, I've sat on runway 13L/31R at JFK for more than 3 hours with both engines shut down. They were using the 22s for arrivals and departures and used the 31s/13s as taxiways. There were storms over all the departure fixes so not many flights were getting out.
AA doesn't shut engines down on the ground... the run em from gate to gate as the aircraft was designed to do, and taxi at a brisk walk...
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Usually min t/o or release fuel is calculated at the gate or on the release. I have flown into EWR and circled around too many times had low fuel and diverted to ABE. It happens and this is an example of the media making a some what routine process seem like a major life threatening event.
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