Logic lacking from Wright backers
06-07-2005, 11:53 PM
#11
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The Wright amendment is going away. Public opinion is running in the high eighties for doing away with it. Even corrupt politicians with lined pockets will bow to those numbers. It is even worse now with the debaucle of the bogus study which conveniently left out the part about the dramatically lower fares for the people of the area that has become the laughing stock of even the national press.
AA went to Love long enough to pummel Legend Air, (once Cecil had chided them enough into being able to handle the slam dunk arrival). ORD and MDW do fine. MIA and FLL do fine. IAH and HOU do fine. LAX and BUR, ONT, SNA do fine. SFO and OAK do fine. They all have their respective niches and loyal customers. Playing the bawlbaby over DFW is just making AA and the DFW administration look moronic to the public.
The time for debate is over. The momentum for change is too strong. AA needs to face reality and learn to compete or surrender, because next time if it isn't SWA it will be Jetblue, Airtran, Frontier, whoever.
For a nation that prides itself on free market principles, the Wright amendment is an absolute travesty. Such blatently heavy handed regulation of open and free commerce is unprecedented even during the glory days of the Soviet Union and Aeroflot.
Ironically, it is AA who is to blame for this whole issue coming to a head now anyway. SWA didn't care when their focus was on short haul. It was Crandall's leadership is getting taxes and fees imposed by the segment rather than percentage of ticket price that forced SWA into the long haul market in the first place. That strategy was aimed directly at hurting SWA and it has now come back to bite its mamAA on the hiney.
AA went to Love long enough to pummel Legend Air, (once Cecil had chided them enough into being able to handle the slam dunk arrival). ORD and MDW do fine. MIA and FLL do fine. IAH and HOU do fine. LAX and BUR, ONT, SNA do fine. SFO and OAK do fine. They all have their respective niches and loyal customers. Playing the bawlbaby over DFW is just making AA and the DFW administration look moronic to the public.
The time for debate is over. The momentum for change is too strong. AA needs to face reality and learn to compete or surrender, because next time if it isn't SWA it will be Jetblue, Airtran, Frontier, whoever.
For a nation that prides itself on free market principles, the Wright amendment is an absolute travesty. Such blatently heavy handed regulation of open and free commerce is unprecedented even during the glory days of the Soviet Union and Aeroflot.
Ironically, it is AA who is to blame for this whole issue coming to a head now anyway. SWA didn't care when their focus was on short haul. It was Crandall's leadership is getting taxes and fees imposed by the segment rather than percentage of ticket price that forced SWA into the long haul market in the first place. That strategy was aimed directly at hurting SWA and it has now come back to bite its mamAA on the hiney.
Last edited by Widow's Son; 06-08-2005 at 12:19 AM.
06-08-2005, 07:37 AM
#13
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Lets talk about something worth talking about like...
Hooter's Air
Does anybody know anything about this small flying company (club)? Is there a better job out there?
Just wondering if anyone could open up this meca of potential?
Does anybody know anything about this small flying company (club)? Is there a better job out there?
Just wondering if anyone could open up this meca of potential?
06-08-2005, 08:11 AM
#15
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AA,
Read what Widow wrote one more time;
Widow,
Your entire post was beautifully stated.
But I especially liked this:
Read what Widow wrote one more time;
AA went to Love long enough to pummel Legend Air, (once Cecil had chided them enough into being able to handle the slam dunk arrival). ORD and MDW do fine. MIA and FLL do fine. IAH and HOU do fine. LAX and BUR, ONT, SNA do fine. SFO and OAK do fine. They all have their respective niches and loyal customers. Playing the bawlbaby over DFW is just making AA and the DFW administration look moronic to the public.
Your entire post was beautifully stated.
But I especially liked this:
Ironically, it is AA who is to blame for this whole issue coming to a head now anyway. SWA didn't care when their focus was on short haul. It was Crandall's leadership is getting taxes and fees imposed by the segment rather than percentage of ticket price that forced SWA into the long haul market in the first place. That strategy was aimed directly at hurting SWA and it has now come back to bite its mamAA on the hiney.
Last edited by 4th Level; 06-11-2005 at 08:58 AM.
06-08-2005, 07:00 PM
#18
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If Wright Dies
I just wonder if this Wright amendment is indeed changed, since it solely benefits SWA at the expense of American Airlines, as a comprise, SWA has to give up have half the gate space at Love.
SWA may very well end up with a ton of competition at Love, plus long, long waits for takeoff. Say good-bye to your monopoly at Love. RLC said on the Mark Davis show yesterday, that if American is able to secure half the gates at Love, all of this is no problem.
You don’t think this could happen – Watch!!
SWA fuel hedging program have been very successful. In fact, it’s the primary reason the company is still one of few profitable airlines. What happens with your future hedges depends on where the price of gas goes. I realize SWA has other fuel hedges in place, but your low fuel hedges start to run out in a couple of years.
No doubt Kelly is trying to put the squeeze on American, but it could backfire in a big way.
AA767AV8TOR
SWA may very well end up with a ton of competition at Love, plus long, long waits for takeoff. Say good-bye to your monopoly at Love. RLC said on the Mark Davis show yesterday, that if American is able to secure half the gates at Love, all of this is no problem.
You don’t think this could happen – Watch!!
SWA fuel hedging program have been very successful. In fact, it’s the primary reason the company is still one of few profitable airlines. What happens with your future hedges depends on where the price of gas goes. I realize SWA has other fuel hedges in place, but your low fuel hedges start to run out in a couple of years.
No doubt Kelly is trying to put the squeeze on American, but it could backfire in a big way.
AA767AV8TOR
06-08-2005, 07:23 PM
#19
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AA loses in that game. AA already came into Love just long enough to screw Legend and then high tailed it out of there. (but not before a whole bunch of go-arounds). On the other hand, SWA could get a pot so sweet out of the DFW folks worried about their darkened corridors to bring lock stock and barrell to DFW and run 300 or so flights a day at $20 a pop and enjoy a (short) war of attrition and end up king of that hill. Who knows? That could actually be their plan from the get go. From my experience the employees of AA don't really care much for their own company but the employees of SWA love theirs like family. I rode on AA in February and there was a AA mechanic riding two rows behind me. After a cursory cabin service, the FA of our section and the mechanic compared notes on all the things they could do to harm the company if they lost their pensions or were forced to take another pay cut. Many passengers heard most or all of the conversation and several commented on it.
It is a shame because I happen to think that American Airlines is one of the best legacy carriers and could actually have the brightest future. That why it is unfortunate to see how stupid and silly they look to Bobby and Suzy Cowboyfan over this Wright issue.
Nevertheless, on the issue of the Wright amendment, my bet is on Love and Luv.
It is a shame because I happen to think that American Airlines is one of the best legacy carriers and could actually have the brightest future. That why it is unfortunate to see how stupid and silly they look to Bobby and Suzy Cowboyfan over this Wright issue.
Nevertheless, on the issue of the Wright amendment, my bet is on Love and Luv.
Last edited by Widow's Son; 06-08-2005 at 07:38 PM.
06-09-2005, 07:14 AM
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Widow’s Son,
I wouldn’t count out AA so quickly. Yes, AA is a wounded animal. And yes, wounded animals can fight pretty hard when threatened. You talk so much about the loving culture at SWA, but don’t forget that the F/A’s were ready to walk last year until Herb stepped in at the last moment.
I can’t really disagree with you regarding the cultures between SWA and AA or any legacy carrier for that matter. The employees at the legacies have had to suffer on so many different levels that SWA has managed to avoid so far – terrorist attacks, paycuts, downsizing, loss of perks and now the pensions. It’s no wonder there is a bunch of poor attitudes.
You are right though about AA being the “best of the worse.” It’s the reason why Kelly is going after AA before we fully recover. It is just a good business decision for them.
I wouldn’t count out AA so quickly. Yes, AA is a wounded animal. And yes, wounded animals can fight pretty hard when threatened. You talk so much about the loving culture at SWA, but don’t forget that the F/A’s were ready to walk last year until Herb stepped in at the last moment.
I can’t really disagree with you regarding the cultures between SWA and AA or any legacy carrier for that matter. The employees at the legacies have had to suffer on so many different levels that SWA has managed to avoid so far – terrorist attacks, paycuts, downsizing, loss of perks and now the pensions. It’s no wonder there is a bunch of poor attitudes.
You are right though about AA being the “best of the worse.” It’s the reason why Kelly is going after AA before we fully recover. It is just a good business decision for them.
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