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tpmagee 10-09-2009 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 691580)
"Shamrock" makes you chuckle?

Yea, I don't get it either.

buzzpat 10-09-2009 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by tpmagee (Post 691603)
Yea, I don't get it either.

"Lingus" dude, or dudette, "lingus." As in Connie? Or Cunning? or something along those lines. Sheesh.

Equinox 10-09-2009 06:24 PM

It is soon coming time for the SOS, Suspension of Service.
ALPA and it's representation department will never grow the gonads for that, however.

Dicecal 10-09-2009 06:37 PM

Here's the real kicker: The IAD to Madrid route is going to be flown with Air Lingus jets, but not it's pilots....and I thought ALPA was bad.... This career is a joke!

emeraldaero 10-09-2009 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 691637)
It is soon coming time for the SOS, Suspension of Service.
ALPA and it's representation department will never grow the gonads for that, however.


That about sums it up.
Our Profession is being eroded by the Corprape leaders with Nickle and Dime tactics.
Its a race to the bottom! A Nationwide SOS Would start the dialoge but it will never happen due to the fact that the problem is the "I'll Pay to fly that shiney big or new airplane pilot mentality"
We deserve what we accept!

JungleBus 10-09-2009 06:49 PM

If this isn't a valid reason for a wildcat strike, I don't know what is.

It's the one way the Midwest guys could have stopped what happened to them. They hesitated, and they were soon outsourced out of relevance and powerless to stop the endgame.

NoStep 10-09-2009 07:23 PM

This is what they mean by "Open Skies". They'll open it to anyone who can find a way to end-run those damned flight crews.

...and I thought J.O. at Mesa was a scum-bag...looks like Tilton is even worse than Wolfe was.

CALTanker 10-09-2009 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by emeraldaero (Post 691651)
That about sums it up.
Our Profession is being eroded by the Corprape leaders with Nickle and Dime tactics.
Its a race to the bottom! A Nationwide SOS Would start the dialoge but it will never happen due to the fact that the problem is the "I'll Pay to fly that shiney big or new airplane pilot mentality"
We deserve what we accept!


The biggest problem is that MOST (not all), pilots, like MOST of America are shackeled to their income. I've got many friends whom would like nothing more to move on to another career but are unalbe to because their lifestyle requires a large sum of money monthly to stay out of financial trouble. Meaning, they can't afford to start over again unless they can get, say, a minimum of 8k a month take home. So they are/have allowed themself to be a slave to their current job. I've also got many furloughed buddies whom now say it was the best thing that ever happened to them. Their furlough forced them to retrench their finances and follow another dream. It was painful but necessary to achieve the peace of mind they were longing for. I wish the best to my UAUA friends.

satchip 10-10-2009 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by CALTanker (Post 691669)
The biggest problem is that MOST (not all), pilots, like MOST of America are shackeled to their income. I've got many friends whom would like nothing more to move on to another career but are unalbe to because their lifestyle requires a large sum of money monthly to stay out of financial trouble. Meaning, they can't afford to start over again unless they can get, say, a minimum of 8k a month take home. So they are/have allowed themself to be a slave to their current job. I've also got many furloughed buddies whom now say it was the best thing that ever happened to them. Their furlough forced them to retrench their finances and follow another dream. It was painful but necessary to achieve the peace of mind they were longing for. I wish the best to my UAUA friends.

That is the same reason why small jet scope is so hard to maintain and recapture. Had a captain tell me yesterday on the commute that he had a mortgage, two car payments, kids in college, life style and other reasons why he needed a pay raise. He would sell 100 seat scope for more money because he will never fly those little jets. Short sighted to say the least.

johnso29 10-10-2009 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 691779)
That is the same reason why small jet scope is so hard to maintain and recapture. Had a captain tell me yesterday on the commute that he had a mortgage, two car payments, kids in college, life style and other reasons why he needed a pay raise. He would sell 100 seat scope for more money because he will never fly those little jets. Short sighted to say the least.


Did you kick him square in the nuts for the rest of us? Arrrggghhhhhhhh!!! I'm tired of these financially irresponsible jacka$$e's! :mad: :mad:


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