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Old 11-01-2009, 09:03 PM
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This sums it up. I hope Frontier is not the next pilot group to help bring a lower cost structure ...



Republic's ownership also brings a lower cost structure, Reichart said. That doesn't mean Midwest is matching every discount fare, but it does mean it can be more competitive with the likes of Southwest and AirTran.
That could change the marketing focus for Midwest, which for years charged higher fares - while advertising a higher level of service.
"You may see price becoming a more prominent element in advertising," Reichart said.

Some of Midwest's lower costs are coming through the use of Republic flight crews who have less seniority, and earn lower salaries, than the so-called legacy Midwest flight crews - pilots and flight attendants who worked for the company prior to its acquisition by TPG. The last remaining veteran Midwest pilots and flight attendants will be laid off this week, after the last Boeing 717 in the Midwest fleet is removed from service on Monday.

Those jets are being replaced mainly by Republic-staffed Embraer 190 jets and by Airbus 319 jets from Denver-based Frontier, which Republic bought on Oct. 1. Midwest also is using Embraer 170 jets and regional aircraft staffed by Republic crews.

"All the people who you used to see when you walk onto a Midwest Airlines flight aren't there anymore," said Tony Freitas, chairman of the Midwest unit of the Air Line Pilots Association.

The Midwest legacy crews' chances of working for Republic will depend on the outcome of negotiations to merge the seniority lists of union employees from Midwest, Republic and Frontier. Virtually no progress has occurred, and officials from Midwest's pilots union say Republic management should get involved to speed up the process.

Republic Chief Executive Officer Bryan Bedford hopes to see the seniority issues resolved as quickly as possible. But company executives cannot impose their vision of a fair integration, which needs to be resolved among the unions, said Republic spokesman Carlo Bertolini.
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This sums it up. I hope Frontier is not the next pilot group to help bring a lower cost structure ...



Republic's ownership also brings a lower cost structure, Reichart said. That doesn't mean Midwest is matching every discount fare, but it does mean it can be more competitive with the likes of Southwest and AirTran.
That could change the marketing focus for Midwest, which for years charged higher fares - while advertising a higher level of service.
"You may see price becoming a more prominent element in advertising," Reichart said.

Some of Midwest's lower costs are coming through the use of Republic flight crews who have less seniority, and earn lower salaries, than the so-called legacy Midwest flight crews - pilots and flight attendants who worked for the company prior to its acquisition by TPG. The last remaining veteran Midwest pilots and flight attendants will be laid off this week, after the last Boeing 717 in the Midwest fleet is removed from service on Monday.

Those jets are being replaced mainly by Republic-staffed Embraer 190 jets and by Airbus 319 jets from Denver-based Frontier, which Republic bought on Oct. 1. Midwest also is using Embraer 170 jets and regional aircraft staffed by Republic crews.

"All the people who you used to see when you walk onto a Midwest Airlines flight aren't there anymore," said Tony Freitas, chairman of the Midwest unit of the Air Line Pilots Association.

The Midwest legacy crews' chances of working for Republic will depend on the outcome of negotiations to merge the seniority lists of union employees from Midwest, Republic and Frontier. Virtually no progress has occurred, and officials from Midwest's pilots union say Republic management should get involved to speed up the process.

Republic Chief Executive Officer Bryan Bedford hopes to see the seniority issues resolved as quickly as possible. But company executives cannot impose their vision of a fair integration, which needs to be resolved among the unions, said Republic spokesman Carlo Bertolini.
After an arbitrator told you guys that you have no leg to stand on, you want RAH mgmt to try and help you with integration? In case you didn't read your next paragraph I underlined it for you. Maybe you should let you idle hands to something constructive than always working in the devils workshop.
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This sums it up. I hope Frontier is not the next pilot group to help bring a lower cost structure ...
Short of another Ch 11 filing, Frontier is locked into a CBA until 2015, with a return to pre-concessionary wages by the end of that period.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:58 AM
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This sums it up. I hope Frontier is not the next pilot group to help bring a lower cost structure ...
Frontier is part of the lower cost structure and their pay rates are better than midwest's were. The article doesn't seem to mention that part.
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There are actually a number of things that could render our current CBA useless prior to 2015 and they have nothing to do with BK.

Our book rates return on January 20, 2012. I believe that it is a realistic assumption that our CBA will still exist long enough to see book rates again.

We have to complete an SLI, representation drive, and an entirely new CBA before our current CBA disappears. 2012 is an unrealistic time frame to get all of the above tasks complete, but 2015?
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This sums it up. I hope Frontier is not the next pilot group to help bring a lower cost structure ...



Republic's ownership also brings a lower cost structure, Reichart said. That doesn't mean Midwest is matching every discount fare, but it does mean it can be more competitive with the likes of Southwest and AirTran.
That could change the marketing focus for Midwest, which for years charged higher fares - while advertising a higher level of service.
"You may see price becoming a more prominent element in advertising," Reichart said.

Some of Midwest's lower costs are coming through the use of Republic flight crews who have less seniority, and earn lower salaries, than the so-called legacy Midwest flight crews - pilots and flight attendants who worked for the company prior to its acquisition by TPG. The last remaining veteran Midwest pilots and flight attendants will be laid off this week, after the last Boeing 717 in the Midwest fleet is removed from service on Monday.

Those jets are being replaced mainly by Republic-staffed Embraer 190 jets and by Airbus 319 jets from Denver-based Frontier, which Republic bought on Oct. 1. Midwest also is using Embraer 170 jets and regional aircraft staffed by Republic crews.

"All the people who you used to see when you walk onto a Midwest Airlines flight aren't there anymore," said Tony Freitas, chairman of the Midwest unit of the Air Line Pilots Association.

The Midwest legacy crews' chances of working for Republic will depend on the outcome of negotiations to merge the seniority lists of union employees from Midwest, Republic and Frontier. Virtually no progress has occurred, and officials from Midwest's pilots union say Republic management should get involved to speed up the process.

Republic Chief Executive Officer Bryan Bedford hopes to see the seniority issues resolved as quickly as possible. But company executives cannot impose their vision of a fair integration, which needs to be resolved among the unions, said Republic spokesman Carlo Bertolini.
Puke. Best wishes to the Frontier & especially the super-screwed Midwest guys.
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After an arbitrator told you guys that you have no leg to stand on, you want RAH mgmt to try and help you with integration? In case you didn't read your next paragraph I underlined it for you. Maybe you should let you idle hands to something constructive than always working in the devils workshop.


Do the Midwest pilots have a legal right to be integrated into Republic after the two companies merged?

If they do, let the process begin and give the Midwest pilots temporary bidding rights until the integration seniority list is approved by all parties.


It's the fair thing to do


Is this asking for too much from the Teamsters, FAPA, Lynx pilots and Republic management?
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Do the Midwest pilots have a legal right to be integrated into Republic after the two companies merged?

If they do, let the process begin and give the Midwest pilots temporary bidding rights until the integration seniority list is approved by all parties.


It's the fair thing to do


Is this asking for too much from the Teamsters, FAPA, Lynx pilots and Republic management?
But the process has started. You've even stated it yourself. Don't know what more you expect to have by tomorrow. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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the company would never agree to something like that. They dont want to have to train anyone to fly any airplane, let alone pay some one to fly an airplane for less than a year and then pay to train them on some other equipment after the sli
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But the process has started. You've even stated it yourself. Don't know what more you expect to have by tomorrow. Rome wasn't built in a day.
They have been trying to negotiate how the process will work. The process hasn't started. It has been 2 weeks and they can't agree on how the process will work. If they can't even agree how to discuss SLI how are the ever going to come to an agreement on SLI? How about we all cut to the chase and get the arbitrator in here? Nah, couldn't do that because all your furloughs aren't back yet flying Midwest colors.
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