Originally Posted by Check Essential

For some earlier posters -- I'll tell you one thing that is for certain. He did not land on Mike intentionally. Not with a good airplane and 200 people who were not having a medical emergency.

Originally Posted by Check Essential

Now any Delta pilot who has made that approach at that hour knows that 27R is usually barely lit. Its the departure runway. It is lit for departures. The approach lights may not have been illuminated at all. Only the REILs and the CLs. On their dimmest settings. The ILS to 27R was almost certainly not turned on. It never is. [/b]He was purely visual. On his own. He's dead tired after a 10 hour all-nighter. He's got an emergency distracting him.[b] The lights on Taxiway Mike were probably just as bright or maybe brighter than the centerline lights on 27R. The wrong color just didn't register. The deck was clear.
You know what happened next. He landed.
Thank God nobody was hurt.

For some earlier posters -- I'll tell you one thing that is for certain. He did not land on Mike intentionally. Not with a good airplane and 200 people who were not having a medical emergency.

Originally Posted by Lambourne

Still a lot of splain'in to do. Six eyeballs landing on a taxiway.

L

Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat

Sorry Richie, need to raise the flag here in support of the RJ's.

While KC's comments were a bit more moderate, no one has a claim here to be better simply because they fly for a legacy. Yes, they have had their screwups, so has DAL. Let's not forget the tragedy of the 1011 that flew through the thunderstorm at DFW and the 727 that took off without setting the T/O flaps. A hell of a lot of people died in those crashes over some really poor decisions. Or a fellow named Duffy who landed at the wrong airport in Kentucky as I recall.

I sat on a 727 jumpseat into ATL and watched 3 hotrods decide to coast into the gate on taxi speed alone after shutting down the engines. When they couldn't figure out why they had no brakes or steering, I had to tell the S/O he needed to put his APU online and open the Brake Interconnect. Thank God he had it up and running or it would have been really ugly.

ACL may be right...there may be a really good reason for the decision to use the taxiway. Maybe not. Time will tell.

But you and others are being much less than honest if you say that you would not be trashing the RJ drivers or anyone else. Never did that yet...this is pure conjecture on your part.

Go back 60 years and read what Ernie Gann said about the legacies. What was true then is true today.

Arrogance and ego will bite you in the ass and kill you in this business. That's why the "great" pilots check it at the door. Where was the arrogance and ego, was it because I said experience matters and criticized a rj pilot for his rush to judgement on this situation?

You are at a legacy carrier because your resume happened to be in the right place on the right day. And just like any other pilot, you can be on the street looking in if your company screws up.Already was, but thanks for the lecture

Originally Posted by Packer Backer

Let the FA's handle it? Are you serious? FA's have the same training as some 16 year old lifeguard at your local swimming pool. If I saw the taxiway was clear, and the runway I was supposed to land on wasn't, I'd make the same decision every day of the week. And you know what, another reg I'm going to disregard is going 250 below 10k.

Originally Posted by dojetdriver

Don't doubt your explanation.

But is there anything called CRM? A lot of referring to "him". Where are the FO and IRO to back "him" up

Originally Posted by captjns

Relevance?

Originally Posted by Lambourne

Still a lot of splain'in to do. Six eyeballs landing on a taxiway.

L

Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat

Sorry Richie, need to raise the flag here in support of the RJ's.

While KC's comments were a bit more moderate, no one has a claim here to be better simply because they fly for a legacy. Yes, they have had their screwups, so has DAL. Let's not forget the tragedy of the 1011 that flew through the thunderstorm at DFW and the 727 that took off without setting the T/O flaps. A hell of a lot of people died in those crashes over some really poor decisions. Or a fellow named Duffy who landed at the wrong airport in Kentucky as I recall.

I sat on a 727 jumpseat into ATL and watched 3 hotrods decide to coast into the gate on taxi speed alone after shutting down the engines. When they couldn't figure out why they had no brakes or steering, I had to tell the S/O he needed to put his APU online and open the Brake Interconnect. Thank God he had it up and running or it would have been really ugly.

ACL may be right...there may be a really good reason for the decision to use the taxiway. Maybe not. Time will tell.

But you and others are being much less than honest if you say that you would not be trashing the RJ drivers or anyone else.

Go back 60 years and read what Ernie Gann said about the legacies. What was true then is true today.

Arrogance and ego will bite you in the ass and kill you in this business. That's why the "great" pilots check it at the door.

You are at a legacy carrier because your resume happened to be in the right place on the right day. And just like any other pilot, you can be on the street looking in if your company screws up.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I'd like to suggest that we stop responding to this thread since it is titled: "Way to go Delta..."

The simple "Way to go" comment is so telling by the author of this thread. It shows tremendous immaturity and an utter lack of nearly any aviation experience. Let's allow this RJ 'know it all' to learn on his own.

Carl

Originally Posted by RichieAshburn

I wrote a long response earlier but for some reason it did not post. I never claimed to be better than a regional pilot, I am former Military AND regional as well as have been furloughed, so your claim of being arrogant and egotistical is disingenuous.

Bottom line, thanks for the lecture but it's not necessary. Everyone makes mistakes. There was no arrogance in my posts, just saying that experience matters. Review my post history, I have criticized certain rj pilot attitudes on some threads but have never played monday morning QB on regional or mainline accidents.

I am not at a Legacy because my "resume happened to be in the right place on the right day". I am at DAL because I met the experience and education qualifications(among other things). EXPERIENCE MATTERS!