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Old 10-20-2009, 01:48 PM
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No bashing, or second guessing intended here, but taxiways are not inspected for debris as often runways are. With that being said is really worth the risk of 200+ lives versus the life of one if a peace of FOD was encountered at a high speed, let alone another aircraft "M" too.

I would think that would be the FAA's contention with this Situation.

Any ATC specialists here have access to tape archives?

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Old 10-20-2009, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Packer Backer View Post
They guy had a medical emergency onboard. Maybe the aircraft in front of him was an RJ that rolled to the end of 27R. Instead of making a go around, maybe he thought the taxiway was a better alternative than having some guy die in the back.
So the better option is to endanger the lives of ALL the passengers on board the aircraft versus a go around? I hardly think so. People die on airplanes all the time. As pilots we can let the FA's and any medical professionals on board the airplane do their job in the care of the pax. We as pilots have to make the SAFE decisions to take care of the airplane and ALL the passengers. Focusing on one sick pax leaves the safety of the rest in doubt.

I wasn't there so I don't know what led to this event. However, it would seem pretty indefensible to intentionally land on a taxiway that you have no idea is occupied with another airplane or vehicle.

Guessing he coasted in near CHS and flew close to AGS to get to ATL. Depending on where this occurred he passed a lot of runways to get to that taxiway. For the "emergency" landing on a taxiway.

Some of my own questions....was he over 60? and was he a commuter?

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Old 10-20-2009, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne View Post
Some of my own questions....was he over 60? and was he a commuter?

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Old 10-20-2009, 02:20 PM
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What is being filled in points to why it's important to have the facts before pronouncements are made.

So far, from what has been posted here, it would seem the salient questions are:

* What type of medical emergency snd severity?
* When did it become apparent...was a suitable airport enroute?
* Where was the RJ on the runway?
* If they were told to expedite and vacate, why didn't they?
* When were they told of the emergency?
* If he was well past the midpoint, why not use the runway and
max autobrakes or brakes 3 if necessary? (Yes, I understand the
runway "belonged to the RJ" until clear.
* While the tower may have cleared the DL flight for the taxiway,
I really can't see how the FAA is going to agree the emergency
met the standard of off runway landing. (yes, I understand Captains
Authority, but it still has to be a tremendously extreme incident)

If the RJ Captain acted irresponsibly, that will be proven without dispute and only then should he and he alone be held accountable...not all RJ crewmembers.

If the DL crew overreached, that too will become known and they too should be held to account. We live in an industry that; as we all know, is very intolerant of mistakes...both in the public forum and with the laws of physics.

Hopefully the passenger turns out OK, the crew will have been found to have acted properly and the RJ had issues that required their actions.

Let's all be thankful it was not one of us, and hope the best for all concerned.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:48 PM
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Like I said, there is a lot to this, let it go until the findings come out.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:50 PM
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You know what's sad?

That this thread has gone on for 9 pages. And what's even worse is the content.

We are our own worse enemies.

Glad nobody got hurt.

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Old 10-20-2009, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chente View Post
Same here. Maybe I'm blind to it but I have not felt that at all. Guys treat me with respect. I dont see a difference as far as ability goes here at Mainline between Military and civilian pilots.
Do mainline pilots have more experience???? Absolutely 100% YES!
We can all make mistakes though and have to guard against becoming complacent.


During my 3 hour airport appreciation breaks on the last penalty lap of a four day I've overheard a few comments at work. I mean VERY FEW comments at work about regional pilots in general. On the other hand, there are MANY comments on this website and the Dalpa forums that clearly show a bias. Someone on the dalpa forum even stated that mainline pilots should never have to deadhead on any RJ since they are all unsafe. There is no respect from many mainline pilots for anyone that has touched an RJ. I think it stems from the proliferation of RJ's and loss of mainline jobs. Yes SOME regional pilots really need to grow up. But to lump all regional pilots as immature and poor aviators is a stretch. At work I get treated with respect. Since I'm not flying an RJ anymore and I got hired at mainline I guess I'm now a superior wide-body premium pilot. I'm glad I threw my ego to the curb years ago. My pride still lingers....
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Originally Posted by aa73 View Post
You know what's sad?

That this thread has gone on for 9 pages. And what's even worse is the content.

We are our own worse enemies.

Glad nobody got hurt.

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I hope this isn't a new revelation but just more reinforcement.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:18 PM
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I can't speak for all of us - but by and large, most of the RJ driver comments on this matter have only re-enforced my belief in the need for more years in the cockpit before flying around my friends and family.

I didn't have much to say when reading your entire post until this. Do you READ the stuff posted by your "more mature" friends? You're lucky the public has no choice but to fly, period, based on stuff presented on APC in general, not just this topic.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:31 PM
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The rumors being thrown about are just that. Just be fortunate that Taxiway Mike was completely open with no traffic as departures were still being pushed to the North side.

Unfortunate incident with a safe outcome. Hope the crew and the passenger are doing okay.
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