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Old 10-22-2009, 10:30 AM
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Default UA A320 at DEN: "Total Hydraulic Failure"?

Plane landing at DIA towed to gate - The Denver Post

In short, the report says that UA418 landed safely on 34L at DEN with a total hydraulic failure. As in NO control surfaces.

Has anyone here heard anything about this? The story has received virtually no attention, suggesting either the media is incorrect either about the extent to which the airplane was crippled, or simply has no idea what a "total hydraulic failure" generally means for the folks trying to fly the airplane.

As I understand it, an A320 that's lost all three hydraulic systems has no control whatsoever other than differential thrust, ala UA232. "Mechanical Backup", the mode to which the plane reverts in the event of a complete electrical failure, simply allows for the manual adjustment of the hydraulic valve of one of the trim tabs.

*Update: Just heard from a family friend with the FAA - so far, the official line from them is "Landed with total hydraulic failure."
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:34 AM
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Nice job guys!

Can't wait to hear the tapes/see the animation on this one.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by thepotato232 View Post
Plane landing at DIA towed to gate - The Denver Post

In short, the report says that UA418 landed safely on 34L at DEN with a total hydraulic failure. As in NO control surfaces.

Has anyone here heard anything about this? The story has received virtually no attention, suggesting either the media is incorrect either about the extent to which the airplane was crippled, or simply has no idea what a "total hydraulic failure" generally means for the folks trying to fly the airplane.

As I understand it, an A320 that's lost all three hydraulic systems has no control whatsoever other than differential thrust, ala UA232. "Mechanical Backup", the mode to which the plane reverts in the event of a complete electrical failure, simply allows for the manual adjustment of the hydraulic valve of one of the trim tabs.

*Update: Just heard from a family friend with the FAA - so far, the official line from them is "Landed with total hydraulic failure."
Wow. A total hydraulic failure seems highly improbable on an A320. I'm interested in seeing the NTSB report, and will refrain from SPECULATING.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:55 AM
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I didn't think it was possible to lose yellow, green, AND blue. It'll be interesting to see the outcome of this.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:58 AM
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I didn't think it was possible to lose yellow, green, AND blue. It'll be interesting to see the outcome of this.
Technically, that's what Douglas said about the DC-10 as well.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Technically, that's what Douglas said about the DC-10 as well.
^ This, this, a million times this.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:20 PM
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Incident: United Airlines A320 near Denver on Oct 21st 2009, hydraulics failure

This clears things right up - only lost one of the three.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:26 PM
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Either way, great job guys!
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:19 PM
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Incident: United Airlines A320 near Denver on Oct 21st 2009, hydraulics failure

This clears things right up - only lost one of the three.
Being a 320 driver myself, this seems much more real. Three lost would be really crazy and nearly impossible. But NEVER EVER SAY NEVER. We all know one in a million can actually happen.
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We all know one in a million can actually happen.
So you're saying I have a chance...
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