2dotslow

Trying to draw an equivalency (moral or otherwise) between your perceptions of a unionista's hard-line stance and a TV show about airborne infantry, is a stretch. Give ya one thing though...neither are quite as real as you'd like to think.

reddog25

My God Bubba, what ever I thought about you in the past..I appologize for that......You are spot on...can i buy you a favorite single malt?...Semper Fi, Ripper

duvie

Nothing in life is black and white. I suppose that may make me a moral relativist, however I stand by that. I don't think you can judge a person by one career related move that they have made. It surely isn't worth all the hatred and hard feelings.

I personally don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my face, and to me that is what a strike can come too. Showing undying loyalty to a Union that exists not help its members, but to fatten its own pockets is ridiculous. Showing unquestionable devotion to co-workers that will turn on you the second you put your own needs ahead of theirs makes even less sense.

Every situation is different. Trans States and their Bull Sh*t and the like is unacceptable to me. The pilots who defected seem pretty spineless to me. If I may, here is a situation I could sympathize with. Delta Airlines. If their pilots keep striking for higher wages they may just run their company into the ground. What if a group of pilots decide that they'd take a wage cut to keep their company alive?

I think crossing the picket line weakens much that we as pilots work for, but to condemn every person who has ever done it its extremely close minded. I think the post by paladin was extremely well written and reflects his inteligence and open minded nature. The subsequent replies are short, childish and have no good responses to refute paladin's post.

I'm young so maybe there are things I haven't been exposed to yet and don't understand. But like I said, I'm not one who believes in cutting off my nose to spite my face. I hope to never be in the position to have to choose between my family's needs and those of my union and coworkers. Its a pretty easy choice

calcapt

Simple advice for pilots: Don't cross picket lines - EVER!

It is no more complicated than that - don't make conversation over what makes it right and wrong. NEVER DO IT! It's the best advice I can think of to give a new pilot entering the profession or an older one being tempted by the devil. Work at Home Depot or Sears to support your family if you must but don't give away your soul and integrity to support the enemy. Jane Fonda will be reviled to the day she dies over her poor decisions. NEVER DO IT!

757Driver

Luckily we, (CAL), are hiring guys who don't share your opinion at all. You obviously would cross a picket line just to get a job so you'd fit right in with some of our '83-85 hires. You're post is uninformed and shows you've got a long way to go if you ever want to become employed at a Major Union carrier.

Hope never to see you at CAL.

757Driver

Reddog, just doing my best to make sure history doesn't repeat itself.

Thanks and anytime!!

duvie

The level of hatred for scabs in unbelievable! I imagine some of you scab haters watching the news and hearing news about numerous rapes and murders without flinching. Then a story comes on about workers crossing picket lines and you jump right out of your rocking chair accdientally knocking over your ALPA mug spilling their Kool-aid everywhere.

I understand where you're coming from. Feeling like you've been betrayed is aweful, but who are you to be judge and jury for every person who has made that decision? This anger involved in this issue seems a little out of proportion

NexPilot

Tell that to the Easy Company soldiers who are still alive today. Not as real as what happened? Stephen Ambrose, my grandfather and the rest of the soldiers would roll over his grave hearing that. The series is what it is. It's not glorifying and wasn't meant to be. It does have great sound effects, visuals, and camera action for enhancements but it is still what it is. To say that it isn't as real as what audiences think is an insult to the soldiers who fought in the war or in any war for that matter. If you still think the series isn't as real as what is shown, then we'll just agree to disagree.

In the meantime I'll listen to what calcapt and the rest of the professionals have to say about never crossing a picket line.

reddog25

[QUOTE=duvie]The level of hatred for scabs in unbelievable! I imagine some of you scab haters watching the news and hearing news about numerous rapes and murders without flinching. Then a story comes on about workers crossing picket lines and you jump right out of your rocking chair accdientally knocking over your ALPA mug spilling their Kool-aid everywhere.

Nope...never spilled my Koolaid. Yep scabs are scabs for the rest of their life. They made the decision to turn their yellow back on their fellow pilots, letem live with the hatred of their fellow pilots. Nuf said......

Uncle Bose

Agreed. No other war production in history even comes CLOSE to the historical, technical, and emotional realism of Band of Brothers. Even so, Stephen Ambrose is, in reality, not the greatest of historians, and there are a few inaccuracies (Pvt. Blythe did NOT die in 1947, E Co was NOT the first allied unit into Berchtesgaden/Eagles Nest, etc.). This hardly diminishes the quality of the production.