AA loses JAL
#11
Heyas,
AMR is a dangerous competitor and #1 in the highest yielding region in the world (AKA South America).
Expect them to extract revenge where ever they can, especially DAL's weak spots (cough - west coast feed - cough).
Nu
AMR is a dangerous competitor and #1 in the highest yielding region in the world (AKA South America).
Expect them to extract revenge where ever they can, especially DAL's weak spots (cough - west coast feed - cough).
Nu
#12
I was thinking something along the lines of Korean. I hopped over to check what the stock was doing, I was expecting a knee jerk sell and wanted to pick up some shares, but for some reason they're all up today. Except mesa.
#13
#15
Been hearing that AA will go on the prowl for a carrier with a big Asian presence ala UAL.
DOJ probably would never allow that but might let 1/3rd go to AA and 2/3rd's to CAL?
Don't shoot the messenger its just speculation and rumor at best.
DOJ probably would never allow that but might let 1/3rd go to AA and 2/3rd's to CAL?
Don't shoot the messenger its just speculation and rumor at best.
#16
You guys have fun with those SLI's!!!
#17
At least this industry is not boring.
AA
#18
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,113
If we're talking about an Asian carrier... I don't know which.
I had earlier suggested that KAL would be a secondary carrier for Skyteam in Asia with JAL in the mix, but then again, recent comments by JAL and DAL suggest it's good to have a strong Asian network, with another strong partner.
Put another way, if JAL might prefer an alliance with DAL because there is more feed to be had, wouldn't the same logic apply to KAL? I understand the fear that AMR was trying to instill about "syphoning off" revenue, but you're not syphoning anything in a profit-sharing alliance with ATI.
Put even differently, if you're adding the largest airline in Asia to try to lock in a market, and cooperate, why would you exit this alliance. I know there are cultural differences between Japanese and Koreans that might make egos flare up a bit, but the financing backinp up our airlines values only the color of money.
If we're talking about an arrangement with CAL and UAL... that makes a lot more sense. I see CAL and UAL having very few incentives to share with AMR, except for cold hard cash, and perhaps deals that consolidate certain geographic areas, similar to what we are doing in LGA and DCA with LCC. Maybe someone becomes stronger in ORD (UAL), and in turn that someone becomes weaker yet in New York. I think the future involves mergers where it makes sense, AND consensual deals that allow airlines to consolidate geographically, without the headaches of mergers.
I had earlier suggested that KAL would be a secondary carrier for Skyteam in Asia with JAL in the mix, but then again, recent comments by JAL and DAL suggest it's good to have a strong Asian network, with another strong partner.
Put another way, if JAL might prefer an alliance with DAL because there is more feed to be had, wouldn't the same logic apply to KAL? I understand the fear that AMR was trying to instill about "syphoning off" revenue, but you're not syphoning anything in a profit-sharing alliance with ATI.
Put even differently, if you're adding the largest airline in Asia to try to lock in a market, and cooperate, why would you exit this alliance. I know there are cultural differences between Japanese and Koreans that might make egos flare up a bit, but the financing backinp up our airlines values only the color of money.
If we're talking about an arrangement with CAL and UAL... that makes a lot more sense. I see CAL and UAL having very few incentives to share with AMR, except for cold hard cash, and perhaps deals that consolidate certain geographic areas, similar to what we are doing in LGA and DCA with LCC. Maybe someone becomes stronger in ORD (UAL), and in turn that someone becomes weaker yet in New York. I think the future involves mergers where it makes sense, AND consensual deals that allow airlines to consolidate geographically, without the headaches of mergers.
#20
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,619
I don't work for AMR but I think anyone in this industry would be stupid to count them out.
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