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Phantom Flyer 02-25-2010 04:37 AM

It All Depends
 
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 768945)
I remember JS'ing home one time on UAL and the CA/FO brought up this point. I asked them if in the case of the CA being a scab, and the FO not, and the above happening, the CA calls scheduling and has the FO pulled off mid trip, if the FO an face any repercussions.

The CA said that once they see that the CA is a scab, that the FO is simply removed and sent home and won't hear a word about it. Is/was that true?

Just asking.

Every situation was different and handled as such. Usually, the Captain was the SCAB and the F/O's just did their job to the best of their ability and didn't engage in "idle chatter" enroute. As stupid as SCABS were, they got the point and on most occasions, one could hear a pin drop in the cockpit. It didn't make for a very enjoyable four day trip and didn't happen that often. At United, a lot of the SCABS ran to Denver to the training center, which was an entirely different matter.

As for a F/O being pulled off a trip, it did happen and he went home, got paid for the trip and that was it. Let's see...what's wrong with this picture ??

Have a bodacious day Mates:)

dojetdriver 02-25-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Flyer (Post 769103)
Every situation was different and handled as such. Usually, the Captain was the SCAB and the F/O's just did their job to the best of their ability and didn't engage in "idle chatter" enroute. As stupid as SCABS were, they got the point and on most occasions, one could hear a pin drop in the cockpit. It didn't make for a very enjoyable four day trip and didn't happen that often. At United, a lot of the SCABS ran to Denver to the training center, which was an entirely different matter.

As for a F/O being pulled off a trip, it did happen and he went home, got paid for the trip and that was it. Let's see...what's wrong with this picture ??

Have a bodacious day Mates:)

Thanks, that's kind of what I was getting at. As long as the FO didn't do anything outside the confines of FAR's, company policy/procedures, safety, etc, there was NOTHING that could be done to the FO. Especially when it was noticed that the CA is a scab.

Where as under normal circumstances (you know, a non-scab CA), such action might attract the attention of pro standards and/or the CP.

joepilot 02-25-2010 10:14 AM

A number of years ago I was jumpseating on Northwest. The cockpit was really quiet, so I didn't say anything. A couple of hours into the flight the F/O had to get up to use the restroom. He packed up all his charts, put them in his flight bag, put on his tie and hat and uniform jacket and overcoat, and took his suitcase and flight bag with him to the restroom. While he was gone the Capt and S/O told me that he had scabbed on their last strike.

Joe

xkuzme1 02-25-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by captjns (Post 768082)
Call in sick:rolleyes:.

Actually, I think that would be one time when I was sick that I would try my hardest to go to work. Snot dripping out of my nose and barely breathing, but I would aim every single sneeze in the proper direction of said scab.

EMBFlyer 02-25-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by joepilot (Post 769332)
A number of years ago I was jumpseating on Northwest. The cockpit was really quiet, so I didn't say anything. A couple of hours into the flight the F/O had to get up to use the restroom. He packed up all his charts, put them in his flight bag, put on his tie and hat and uniform jacket and overcoat, and took his suitcase and flight bag with him to the restroom. While he was gone the Capt and S/O told me that he had scabbed on their last strike.

Joe

And apparently he learned...

IrishTiger 02-25-2010 07:58 PM

so in the case where the CA is the scab, and the FO is not, I take it most of you in that position would just not talk to him, as has been mentioned many times. I'm curious though, does the CA just say "Well eff you, if you won't talk to me, I'm flying all the legs," because that's what I would imagine would happen. These guys seem like real pieces of work.

Airhoss 02-25-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishTiger (Post 769634)
so in the case where the CA is the scab, and the FO is not, I take it most of you in that position would just not talk to him, as has been mentioned many times. I'm curious though, does the CA just say "Well eff you, if you won't talk to me, I'm flying all the legs," because that's what I would imagine would happen. These guys seem like real pieces of work.

To the man or woman these guys are pieces of work. If they don't want to give me a leg who cares I've got plenty of legs to go around.

Most SCABS have a story as to why they were "forced" to SCAB and how it was out of their control. When in fact they are completely self serving and when given the chance IE placed in positions of power totally abusive towards guys who got here the honest way.

Phantom Flyer 02-26-2010 05:14 AM

Piece of Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishTiger (Post 769634)
so in the case where the CA is the scab, and the FO is not, I take it most of you in that position would just not talk to him, as has been mentioned many times. I'm curious though, does the CA just say "Well eff you, if you won't talk to me, I'm flying all the legs," because that's what I would imagine would happen. These guys seem like real pieces of work.

That happened on occasion, until the SCAB realized he was doing all the work and the F/O was enjoying the window seat and talking on the radio. Actually, from my experience, most of the SCABS I've encountered tried so hard to be "good guys" and "one of the boys", they became even worse to fly with.

You're right about one thing...almost all were real pieces of work, as pilots and individuals.:eek:

'Nuff said. Have a Great day Mates:)

NERD 02-26-2010 05:17 AM

I have met a few SCABS in my life. One lives by me and is a double SCAB. Cal from 83-85 then left for greener pastures at Ual in 85. Not one ounce of regret, actually pride in getting 15+ years at Ual and retiring a 767 Ca prior to the paycuts. Now what I am going to say will ruffle some feathers but every SCAB I have met has been a diehard conservative. Not saying all conservatives are SCABS but I'll bet most SCABS are conservatives. Just sayin.....

Adlerdriver 02-26-2010 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 769725)
Now what I am going to say will ruffle some feathers but every SCAB I have met has been a diehard conservative. Not saying all conservatives are SCABS but I'll bet most SCABS are conservatives. Just sayin.....

:confused: I don't see your point.
A conservative child molester is still a child molester.
Just sayin'.


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