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Old 03-10-2010, 06:08 PM   #11  
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:14 PM   #12  
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The passengers complained because they were delayed, now they won't get there until the next day if they are lucky. Funny. I hope they are happy.
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Love it! They cried and demanded Congress do something. Wonder what they come up with next....fines for cancelling?
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Love it! They cried and demanded Congress do something.
A great example of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

I can't wait to see what happens if Congress passes CVR monitoring rules and anti-commuting rules. In the meantime, everyone should load up on Greyhound Lines stock.

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Old 03-11-2010, 05:19 AM   #15  
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I'm all for showing congress what the "law of unintended consequences" is all about but what that suggests borders on malicious and deceitful. Besides sitting in my office for hours on end while not getting paid does not sound like something I'd be gung ho about anyway.

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Fix the flocking airspace/atc system and most of these problems would not happen. Use at least 1/4 of the money you get from all the taxation you shovel onto the airlines for improving the NAS. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
It is a no-brainer, which is precisely why congress is incapable of finding any solution.
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Kate Hanni became a passenger rights advocate, founded FlyersRights.org and pushed for the three-hour rule after being stranded for 10 hours on an American Airlines flight three years ago. She says travelers prefer cancellations to the uncertainty of being trapped on a stranded airplane or stranded at an airport halfway through their journey.

"We don't get complaints when people are stuck in airports, only when they are stuck on airplanes. It's better for airlines to pre-cancel," she said. "They are trying to scare everybody that canceling is some kind of horrific travel nightmare and it's not."
Idiot number zero... These 2 paragraphs are priceless.

Her theory is about to be tested. I can't wait to see all the glares we will be getting at the airport as we walk away from a perfectly good airplane on a perfectly good day on our way to go home... and they get to sleep on the floor at JFK. Yeah, that is MUCH better than arriving late at your destination..
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So, the airlines figure they don't want to play given the rules congress shoved down their throats with the passenger protection legislation.

What should that tell pilots about what needs to be done on the subject of CVR access? Surely the airline management people will understand if we take our ball and go home.
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What should that tell pilots about what needs to be done on the subject of CVR access? Surely the airline management people will understand if we take our ball and go home.
And how do you propose we do that? Sit there in pure silence on EVERY flight? Press and hold the erase button? Pull the CVR breaker?

All that's going to do is get pilots in legal trouble for tampering with the CVR if they start to notice a trend.
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Hi!

Why don't the airlines schedule their landings and takeoffs at each airport so there will be no landing/takeoff/gate access delays? Obviously, there is no controlling the WX, but if the airlines schedule 1000 movements at O'Hare between 1700-1900, and it can only accomodate 500 mvmts, delays will occur.

If I were gov't I would not allow more landings/takeoffs per hour, at any airport, than can be accomodated by ATC, the runways, taxiways and the gate availability. That would solve a huge chunk of the delay problems.

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