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Old 03-15-2010, 11:03 AM
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Pilots who overflew airport to forfeit licenses - News- msnbc.com
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:09 AM
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So they lose their licenses, and they can reapply in one year. The article leads you to believe that Delta will help them get their certificates back by retraining them after a year? I find that hard to believe. But then again I find it hard to believe that this is not a terminable offense. Why do they still have their jobs?
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:12 AM
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The FAA really messed things up by revoking their licenses before ASAP was done with it.

Too bad we'll never know what really happened in that cockpit.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:16 AM
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The FAA really messed things up by revoking their licenses before ASAP was done with it.

Too bad we'll never know what really happened in that cockpit.

Intentional disregard for safety does not fall under ASAP. They would have been excluded.

Personally, no matter what they were doing they would have been better off saying they fell asleep. At least that might be understandable. Saying they were completely distracted by their laptops makes them no different then a passenger.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:27 AM
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Intentional disregard for safety does not fall under ASAP. They would have been excluded.

Personally, no matter what they were doing they would have been better off saying they fell asleep. At least that might be understandable. Saying they were completely distracted by their laptops makes them no different then a passenger.

Doesn't matter, the FAA did not wait for the ASAP ERC. They completely disregarded ASAP.

I agree on the second paragraph.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Doesn't matter, the FAA did not wait for the ASAP ERC. They completely disregarded ASAP.

I agree on the second paragraph.

Did they even file and ASAP report?

Besides , I am sure that there is something in our ASAP MOU that still allows the FAA to proceed with an emergency revocation if they feel it is necessary.

Have they even been disciplined by Delta? I can't believe they haven't been fired. Mind you, I am not wishing for their termination, it just seems like their infraction would be terminable and indefensible.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:34 AM
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The NTSB should be slapped for releasing info to the media without even STARTING the investigation.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Superdad View Post
Did they even file and ASAP report?

Besides , I am sure that there is something in our ASAP MOU that still allows the FAA to proceed with an emergency revocation if they feel it is necessary.

Have they even been disciplined by Delta? I can't believe they haven't been fired. Mind you, I am not wishing for their termination, it just seems like their infraction would be terminable and indefensible.
They did file an ASAP.

I think Delta didn't want to get into disciplining them before the FAA ruled on the revocations. No reason to discipline if they lose their licenses...
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I hope we see them back next year, I don't think the punishment fits the crime in this instance.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer View Post
No reason to discipline if they lose their licenses...
Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
I hope we see them back next year, I don't think the punishment fits the crime in this instance.
Crime is an interesting word, in as much as it implies willful misconduct.

It is a hard case to Judge. Delta made a smart move by taking a road that ensures it does not have a decision to make.
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