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vagabond 03-15-2010 11:03 AM

NWA Pair Agrees To Forfeit License
 
Pilots who overflew airport to forfeit licenses - News- msnbc.com

Superdad 03-15-2010 11:09 AM

So they lose their licenses, and they can reapply in one year. The article leads you to believe that Delta will help them get their certificates back by retraining them after a year? I find that hard to believe. But then again I find it hard to believe that this is not a terminable offense. Why do they still have their jobs?

80ktsClamp 03-15-2010 11:12 AM

The FAA really messed things up by revoking their licenses before ASAP was done with it.

Too bad we'll never know what really happened in that cockpit.

Superdad 03-15-2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 778997)
The FAA really messed things up by revoking their licenses before ASAP was done with it.

Too bad we'll never know what really happened in that cockpit.


Intentional disregard for safety does not fall under ASAP. They would have been excluded.

Personally, no matter what they were doing they would have been better off saying they fell asleep. At least that might be understandable. Saying they were completely distracted by their laptops makes them no different then a passenger.

80ktsClamp 03-15-2010 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 779000)
Intentional disregard for safety does not fall under ASAP. They would have been excluded.

Personally, no matter what they were doing they would have been better off saying they fell asleep. At least that might be understandable. Saying they were completely distracted by their laptops makes them no different then a passenger.


Doesn't matter, the FAA did not wait for the ASAP ERC. They completely disregarded ASAP.

I agree on the second paragraph.

Superdad 03-15-2010 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 779005)
Doesn't matter, the FAA did not wait for the ASAP ERC. They completely disregarded ASAP.

I agree on the second paragraph.


Did they even file and ASAP report?

Besides , I am sure that there is something in our ASAP MOU that still allows the FAA to proceed with an emergency revocation if they feel it is necessary.

Have they even been disciplined by Delta? I can't believe they haven't been fired. Mind you, I am not wishing for their termination, it just seems like their infraction would be terminable and indefensible.

hoserpilot 03-15-2010 11:34 AM

The NTSB should be slapped for releasing info to the media without even STARTING the investigation.

iaflyer 03-15-2010 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 779011)
Did they even file and ASAP report?

Besides , I am sure that there is something in our ASAP MOU that still allows the FAA to proceed with an emergency revocation if they feel it is necessary.

Have they even been disciplined by Delta? I can't believe they haven't been fired. Mind you, I am not wishing for their termination, it just seems like their infraction would be terminable and indefensible.

They did file an ASAP.

I think Delta didn't want to get into disciplining them before the FAA ruled on the revocations. No reason to discipline if they lose their licenses...

shiznit 03-15-2010 12:00 PM

I hope we see them back next year, I don't think the punishment fits the crime in this instance.

Bucking Bar 03-15-2010 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 779014)
No reason to discipline if they lose their licenses...


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 779026)
I hope we see them back next year, I don't think the punishment fits the crime in this instance.

Crime is an interesting word, in as much as it implies willful misconduct.

It is a hard case to Judge. Delta made a smart move by taking a road that ensures it does not have a decision to make.


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