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Old 03-30-2010, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
Most of readers of the 'majors' forum (like 'atpcliff') have international Boeing or Airbus time (with the possible exception of guys @ Southwest, but many of them have it from previous lives). So, does this time need to be PIC time, or is a certain amount of time required? Can military time count (C-5 or F-18) or does the time have to be in a civilian aircraft (KC-10, aka DC-10)?

Sorry I'm asking, but, for a lot of us, the JAA license might have just become a good deal easier to attain. What am I missing? If it was just a 100 question test (no matter how hard) more guys would be doing it, I'd think.
Not sure about military, I think 1,500 of those hours have to be as PIC.

Then after you do the exam, you are still restricted to fly on only UK registered aircraft. Would probably have to do a different conversion at that point to get a JAA license.

But it would all be useless without a work permit, or being a citizen of the EU.

Guys probably don't do it because the ones who do have the time are comfortable where they are or don't have the right to work and live in Europe (where flying jobs are almost non-existant at the time), or language barriers, other then in the UK.

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Originally Posted by benairguitar23 View Post
Part 135 doesn't require the 1500, only 1200, which you could get instructing. So it looks likes the steps to get to the airlines would be: Commercial, Instructing, Part 135 flying, Airlines...which is the way it should be instead of the current: Commercial, Airlines.........Fatal accident.
Melodramatic much????
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Old 03-31-2010, 07:57 AM
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Some of those JAA questions are pretty rough...

WX:

It is July 29th, what is the weather likely to be in Karachi?

During the month of april, what major cities does the ITCZ pass though?

A/P:

A generator with 2 pole pairs spins at 300RPM, what is the frequency and consequently the voltage output?

A feeder fault on a direct current circuit results in a flux unbalance between the:

A-voltage coil and series winding
B-Voltage coil and series winding turn
C-Generator and series winding turn
D-shunt exciter and series winding turn

What metals does a duralumin alloy consist of and what are its characters in terms of heat transfer, brittleness, critical crack length, tensility, torsion-ability, shear-ability and compressibility.
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:23 AM
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The US has produced the highest quantity AND quality of pilots for decades. From both military and civilian backgrounds, the safety records of US commercial carriers makes it objectively obvious that a massive change to something like a JAA-style screening program simply isn't necessary.

Not that I don't put it past the FAA to massively overreach. Case in point: The three hour tarmac rule. The FAA loves to use a sledgehammer when a surgeon's scalpel is a better tool.

Flight training in the EU is more about limiting entry into the profession than about safety concerns. (the preceeding post of a utterly useless JAA written exam question is an excellent example)

Class consciousness and "knowing one's place" is very much alive in the EU. Can't have the "little people" thinking they can become pilots, after all.
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Hey, i'm PRO-US, bald eagle and all but what a crock [edit]

We have the most un-homogenized and inconsistent training system in the world. The products range from a 350LB GIA graduate to astronaut material.

It has more to with the governing agency (JAA) not being burdened with both promoting and regulating aviation.

PS: Pilots ARE little people. Nobody cares to limit the entry to the profession but pilots themselves.

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Originally Posted by stoki View Post
iirc the JAA conversion regs talk about converting an ICAO license to a JAA. Canadian is ICAO, I don't think having a Canadian license changes anything.

JAA licenses are ICAO, also. I didn't even bring that up.

The agreement between Canada and JAA is what's different, which does not exist between US-FAA and JAA.
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Originally Posted by beeker View Post
Are these all multiple choice questions with the question bank available for review beforehand like the faa test? Or are these just random, out of nowhere questions that hopefully one saw in a random book studing for the test?

Most are multiple choice. There is a bank but it is huge, not available to the public and There is no way you could memorize all the answers. With that being said Italy is a JAA country and the question bank slips out of their system every now and then

Ask for the Italian feedback...
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Hi!

The question bank is online. There are various versions. One I saw had about 23,000 questions over the 14 subject areas.

I studied mostly online, and had about 5 questions I remembered word-for-word from the test bank I studied.

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Old 03-31-2010, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams View Post
JAA licenses are ICAO, also. I didn't even bring that up.

The agreement between Canada and JAA is what's different, which does not exist between US-FAA and JAA.
Not that it matters much but I looked through every possible venue to try to make this conversion less painful, and think I would have caught on to this one if it was available.

I dont remember the regs stating anywhere that for other ICAO licenses you must do XXXX but for Canadian license its ok if you do XXXX to convert.

Looked through a bunch of pprune threads which only confirmed that Canada is no different.

Im looking big time into flying outside of the U.S, as the money offered in the U.S, especially at the regional level where I would have to start (and already did and furloughed), is a complete [edit] joke. It really is some sort of circus.

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Originally Posted by TPROP4ever View Post
Melodramatic much????
Actually no I'm just honest, that's EXACTLY the route that the Colgan Captain took. Commercial to airlines to Fatal accident killing all on board. Know your facts before you criticize.
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