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Old 06-16-2010, 04:53 PM
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Hi!

Read that at more than one Euro airline, the FAs are all trained to assist the pilots if they need help in the cockpit...standard training for everyone.

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Old 06-16-2010, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
Am I the only pilot that would not bring up an ordinary passenger if the captain gets sick? Call me paranoid, but unless it's a jumpseater with an airline I.D. or a flight attendant, I believe it's a security risk. I'm perfectly capable of flying an Airbus by myself.
What do you consider an ordinary passenger?

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Old 06-16-2010, 05:33 PM
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I'm thinking it was the F/O's leg and the captain didn't want anyone whining about him taking all the landings. Maybe she landed it?
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
What do you consider an ordinary passenger?

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What about an active duty military pilot with an ATP, 4000+ total time and 1500+ hours in a heavy Boeing? They might make a decent copilot in a 767.

I have day dreamed this scenario hundreds of times. Wrong place wrong time again. Seems to be my mantra these days.
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tank6102 View Post
lol, its not quite that easy...Busy time O'Hare is a nightmare on the radios...
When I started I went there on my first leg of IOE and I think part of me may still be there
Agreed - again going back to what the PPL has seen (or heard)

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Old 06-16-2010, 05:53 PM
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So did she get to log the time, or what? Does this count as her first leg of IOE?
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
How much help can they really be? An airline pilot can talk on the radio and help out a little. A passenger with a private pilots' license can't even do that. I would just as rather do it myself than try to explain something to someone who is awestruck. Security is my biggest issue. Who is to say the pilot was not poisoned?
Plenty. An experienced Captain can hand a person a check list and say "read what this says under each heading and I'll respond. Make sure my response is correct." It would take about 5 seconds to so this. Obviously we disagree on how much help one would be. The Captain wasn't bringing up someone with zero experience. Even private pilots know how to use checklists...remember?
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:07 PM
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Freaking airline pilots. "Oh, it's so hard. There's no way any mere mortal could talk on the radio or anything." Please. I know a 17 year old girl who has probably spent 1000 hrs in the right seat of her dads Citation. I'd be willing to bet she's AT LEAST as capable as that 300 hour wonder sitting in the right seat of that CRJ.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
I would imagine carrying the load of having to supervise someone not trained, or recently experienced would be a lot greater than just doing it solo.

P.S. Although I agree in the notion that if you need help ask for it. If one of my pilots has done this, HE WOULD BE FIRED.

I am staggered by the elitist tone of some of these replies. Lest you forget that the "ordinary" passengers may be your best resource in an emergency. Some of us are high time military and civilian pilots with thousands of hours, ATP's, turbojet type ratings, and an awful lot of experience operating in and out of Chicago, NY, Etc. Much to our chagrin, we have to fly on the airlines (sorry, I digress), to move around for our jobs, which fly from the same airports as you. As for firing the Captain, how about firing you? Makes about as much sense as your comment.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by upndsky View Post
The database only has pilots with active medicals. If she hasn't had a medical in a while (ie, she's not actively flying on the side) she wouldn't show up.

Doesn't mean she doesn't have a pilot's license.
Are you sure? I was able to pull up someone without a medical for the last 30 years.
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