Retirement at age 70
02-12-2019, 11:58 AM
#261
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
IMHO, the biggest threat is not sudden incapacitation. The biggest threat for near mid 60's and above pilots is fatigue.
There are plenty of sharp guys who could pass a sim check with their buddy company Examiner at 10am after a good cup of coffee. Not so much nearing the 14-16th hour of a duty day very late.
Seen enough guys at that age run out of gas and sleep patterns get more difficult to adjust.
Give them the 0200-0600 Sim slot and post the results.
There are plenty of sharp guys who could pass a sim check with their buddy company Examiner at 10am after a good cup of coffee. Not so much nearing the 14-16th hour of a duty day very late.
Seen enough guys at that age run out of gas and sleep patterns get more difficult to adjust.
Give them the 0200-0600 Sim slot and post the results.
You don't even know what fatigue is until you do ad hoc long haul...
02-12-2019, 11:59 AM
#262
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Originally Posted by captjns
Yes... really.
In the US, no problem over 65 since the medical doesn't change. Japan? Not so much.
02-14-2019, 02:36 PM
#263
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Maybe so. I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is in the interest of aviation safety
Because someone chooses to commute does not make them unsafe. If you have a 7pm show and you choose to go to the gym that day or to the park with your daughter and wife, should that be considered duty as well, you know, in the name of "safety?"
02-14-2019, 03:35 PM
#264
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
IMHO, the biggest threat is not sudden incapacitation. The biggest threat for near mid 60's and above pilots is fatigue.
There are plenty of sharp guys who could pass a sim check with their buddy company Examiner at 10am after a good cup of coffee. Not so much nearing the 14-16th hour of a duty day very late.
Seen enough guys at that age run out of gas and sleep patterns get more difficult to adjust.
Give them the 0200-0600 Sim slot and post the results.
There are plenty of sharp guys who could pass a sim check with their buddy company Examiner at 10am after a good cup of coffee. Not so much nearing the 14-16th hour of a duty day very late.
Seen enough guys at that age run out of gas and sleep patterns get more difficult to adjust.
Give them the 0200-0600 Sim slot and post the results.
02-18-2019, 10:56 AM
#265
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I don't see to many body builders or former NFL players in the cockpit, but they sure do appear in a sleep apnea thread.
I was USAF enlisted and had 2 weight waivers based on body fat because I was “obese” according to BMI but not the caliper testing. Of course, if your aircraft is burning and you’re incapacitated, I’m thinking you want the CFR guy that does a few squats to be tasked with getting you out.
Once you stop lifting (especially into your 40’s), the muscle mass atrophies quickly. Unless you’re juicing. Last thing I want to do after a red eye is hit the gym. So I’m slowly sliding into the apnea category.
02-25-2019, 04:29 PM
#266
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Originally Posted by Andy
Really? On paper, maybe. How about in reality? Last I checked it was just a low double digit number of pilots beyond 65 in Japan.
Kampai...
02-26-2019, 04:48 AM
#267
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
This has nothing to do with aviation safety. It is in the guise of safety. The whole reason you want these standards is because you know it would weed people out of the profession... which means more time at the top for you. It's greed, really.
02-26-2019, 05:00 AM
#268
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The death of an average male in the US is 79. Long haul pilots seem to be a lot less. Do you really want to leave less than 9 years to enjoy your retirement?!
I’ll be punching out as soon as possible. (Work...not dying)
I’ll be punching out as soon as possible. (Work...not dying)
02-27-2019, 02:49 AM
#269
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Its always been about this. "Get out of my seat, old man."
Anyone who denies this makes it all about themselves and just wanting to stay in their seat as long as possible and damn the safety of those on the airplane.
Stop being so selfish and retire before you end up killing a plane load of people. Because by the time you think you should have retired it will probably be to late and if left to our own devices some would prefer to die at the controls.
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