Martin404

I am doing research on the total retirements for the Legacy carriers.

Does anyone have the most up to date retirement numbers taking mergers and age 65 into account.

Oh yes... I'm not Kit Darby

MARTY!!

TonyWilliams

Is your avatar the Martin 404 sitting in Camarillo, California?

Tumbleweed

The following numbers are just cut and pasted from a similar post a year or so ago.

Deltas numbers....
Year Age 65 Retirements
2009 6
2010 13
2011 15
2012 24
2013 139
2014 238
2015 278
2016 330
2017 386
2018 469
2019 558
2020 645
2021 830
2022 870
2023 824
2024 811
2025 727
2026 626
2027 522
2028 491
2029 485
2030 509
2031 449
2032 347
2033 271
2034 182
2035 122
2036 103
2037 19

UAL Numbers.....
RETIREMENTS PER YEAR AT AGE 65
2012 - 263
2013 - 235
2014 - 231
2015 - 201
2016 - 167
2017 - 228
2018 - 246
2019 - 239
2020 - 271
2021 - 330
2022 - 305
2023 - 383
2024 - 356
2025 - 461
2026 - 508
2027 - 503
2028 - 574
2029 - 539
2030 - 561
2031 - 407

Unfortunately if nothing changes United wont even need to hire until about 2016 just to cover the guys out on furlough.

CAL numbers: calculated with senior list and birthdays.
2012 7
2013 183
2014 198
2015 186
2016 205
2017 210
2018 180
2019 194
2020 169
2021 188
2022 180
2023 187
2024 154
2025 156
2026 166
2027 167
2028 204
2029 154
2030 170
2031 119

American Airlines

- 12/31/2010 0
01/01/2011 - 12/31/2011 0
01/01/2012 - 12/31/2012 5
01/01/2013 - 12/31/2013 138
01/01/2014 - 12/31/2014 225
01/01/2015 - 12/31/2015 274
01/01/2016 - 12/31/2016 262
01/01/2017 - 12/31/2017 286
01/01/2018 - 12/31/2018 363
01/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 458
01/01/2020 - 12/31/2020 550
01/01/2021 - 12/31/2021 609
01/01/2022 - 12/31/2022 661
01/01/2023 - 12/31/2023 714
01/01/2024 - 12/31/2024 726
01/01/2025 - 12/31/2025 737
01/01/2026 - 12/31/2026 711
01/01/2027 - 12/31/2027 588
01/01/2028 - 12/31/2028 498
01/01/2029 - 12/31/2029 476

2009- 6
2010- 13
2011- 15
2012- 299
2013- 695
2014- 892
2015- 939
2016- 964
2017- 1110
2018- 1258
2019- 1449
2020- 1653
2021- 1957
2022- 2016
2023- 2108
2024- 2047
2025- 2081
2026- 2011
2027- 1780
2028- 1767
2029- 1654
2030- 1240
2031- 975

Total Pilots Retiring at CAL UAL DAL AMR ONLY by the end of 2031:
(age 65 taken into account until 2028)
28911

Martin404

It is a former Eastern 404 that is at the Reading PA air museum. The airplane up until 2000 or so was in excellent flying condition. In fact I saw it many times at airshow in the mid 90's and was very impressed with it.

It is now down for some AD's or other maintenance issues. The museum is so focused on rebuilding their P-61 Black Widow that they have, in my opinion, really neglected this wonderful airplane.


Thanks for the numbers... still need:

USAir/AWA

Hopefully I'm building the mother of all retirement spreadsheets.

MARTY!!!

trent890

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tml#post890001

The numbers for East (former USAir) and West (AmWest) combined.

Sliceback

SW -

Post #9

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...ents-data.html -

Presently (14 Jan '10) 265 guys over 60

2010 19 (guys who took the early out "Freedom 09")
'11 0
'12 0
'12 3
'13 129
'14 107
'15 140
'16 160
'17 148
'18 105
'19 133
'20 149
'21 176
'22 266
'23 188
'24 221
'25 240
'26 272
'27 278
'28 250
'29 239
'30 222
'31 216
'32 209
'33 171
'34 186
'35 169

80ktsClamp

I've got a friend that made a relative seniority graph...very interesting. You'll make it to 50% at Usair the quickest in 2021ish. DL second quickest in 2024, with the other legacies and UPS in rapid succession behind. WN... you'll make 50% in 2029, and that is without Airtran included in the mix.

MoonShot

Here is the updated Delta list. This is current as of Nov. 1, 2010. I believe that it includes all hired and flowed in the last round (since they were all already on the list).

Columbia

Looks good, however, it would be more meaningful, IMO, if #s were translated to percentages.

Oldfreightdawg

There are 462 pilots over age 60 at AAL, there are only 175 under age 40, the youngest is 35. There are 5088 pilots over 50, 2070 over 55.

Talk about a bunch of old farts!