skytrekker

For some background info here is the FAA AC. No: 120-76A about EFB's. Note the difference in Class 1, 2, and 3.

http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/590.pdf


Next there are several solutions on offer.

Fokker Services - Fokker Services introduces Electronic Flight Bag hardware and mounting solution for iPad

Fokker Services - iPad EFB

GlobalNavSource - iPad EFB

ASIGllc.com : Home

http://www.asigllc.com/press/PRESS%2...2012-13-10.pdf

IFR VFR iPad Aviation App | Electronic Digital iPad Flight Charts | Jeppesen

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Is there any information on which provider is being tested for Alaska? And what class device will you get? And lastly will it be issued to all pilots, or installed on aircraft only?

Thrill

Each pilot will have an iPad issued to them.

skytrekker

Any update on getting the iPad?

Thrill

Supposedly, they have been shipped to FLT ops and will be distributed in the next couple weeks.......we'll see.

Singlecoil

I've heard that the projected cost savings haven't quite penciled out from the earlier proposal. Even though all of the Ipads have been purchased and programmed by Alaska Air Group, the procurement department is separate from the flight ops department. Even though money is being wasted on paper manuals and jepps while they already have an electronic replacement, since the departments are separate, the flight ops department can show a savings by still using paper instead of the more expensive Ipad. I'm also told that the numbers are very close, and it will just be 6 more flight bag related back injuries in the next year to push the numbers for the paper manuals higher than the Ipad.
If you were in AAG management, you would understand that it makes the most sense to spend the extra money in the short term so that no mid-level manager's budget shows a shortfall, hence affecting his/her bonus.
It is kind of like cancelling a flight for lack of flight crew. By not having the flight crew, you had a lower payroll. Cancelling the flight created hotel and rebooking costs for the affected passengers, but that came out of someone else's budget so to you it makes sense.

Homa

What Singlecoil said!

By the way, just heard about a PDX Captain who screwed up his shoulder getting his flight back out of the cockpit. He's out for 6 weeks. It's not just our lower backs that we need to worry about.

skytrekker

Thanks for the update guys. A few questions.

Will this be a class 3 with a fixed bracket and power supply?

Will all your manuals, handbooks, etc. move to this device?

Do you know who the vendor is? ASIG llc?

AviatorGP

I dont think anyone knows here anymore.

DON*T HATE ERAU

"Flight's EFB Team - Captain David Clark, Captain Mark Maestas, and First Officer Hank Putek - have been working diligently with the FAA to get the iPad approved to replace the paper Jeppesen charts.

Soon, LAX-based 777 pilots will begin testing iPad capabilities. American hopes to be the first Part 121 carrier to have FAA approval to use the iPad during all phases of flight. As other tablet devices come available, we hope to test them as an alternative display device.

"The EFB project is unique in that we have been able to adapt and capitalize on the capabilities of a Commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) device in an aviation environment," said Captain David Clark. "We gain similar functionality of traditional avionics grade equipment at a fraction of the cost. This allows us to economically ease into a 'paperless cockpit' as we continue to develop our requirements and procedures." "

Found this from Jetnet, AA's company website. I didn't even know they were looking at it and neither thought they would be this close. "American hopes to be the first Part 121 carrier to have FAA approval to use the iPad during all phases of flight"

Homa

For those of you wondering, we just got a memo from the company and ALPA that the iPads are going to be distributed starting Wednesday, May 4.