ATN/SWA process agremeent ...
03-10-2011, 04:28 AM
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ATN/SWA process agremeent ...
March 6, 2011
A Joint Message from the ATN MEC Merger Committee and the SWAPA Negotiating Committee.
On Thursday, the SWAPA Negotiating Committee and AirTran ALPA Merger Committee reached agreement on the remaining open issues of our Process Agreement, which will govern the protocol and timeline used to attain an integrated seniority list (ISL). Prior to final agreement, our respective legal and management teams must review the document, as the leadership of Southwest and AirTran will also be signatories to the four-party agreement.
When the process agreement is finalized and approved by all parties, it will be made available to the membership at atnmerger.alpa.org.
A Joint Message from the ATN MEC Merger Committee and the SWAPA Negotiating Committee.
On Thursday, the SWAPA Negotiating Committee and AirTran ALPA Merger Committee reached agreement on the remaining open issues of our Process Agreement, which will govern the protocol and timeline used to attain an integrated seniority list (ISL). Prior to final agreement, our respective legal and management teams must review the document, as the leadership of Southwest and AirTran will also be signatories to the four-party agreement.
When the process agreement is finalized and approved by all parties, it will be made available to the membership at atnmerger.alpa.org.
March 9, 2011
On Thursday, March 3, the ATN MEC Merger Committee and the SWAPA Negotiating Committee jointly announced that we had reached consensus on a Process Agreement, which will govern the protocol and timeline used to attain an integrated seniority list (ISL). As mentioned in that announcement, it was clearly understood that prior to final agreement, the document would be subject to review and approval by our respective legal and management teams.
As part of that review process, both our outside and ALPA counsel have expressed concern over portions of language formulated during the final session of talks on Thursday. We believe these concerns should be addressed, and we look forward to working further with our counterparts at SWAPA to draft language with which all Parties will be satisfied.
In Service,
Your ATN Merger Committee
On Thursday, March 3, the ATN MEC Merger Committee and the SWAPA Negotiating Committee jointly announced that we had reached consensus on a Process Agreement, which will govern the protocol and timeline used to attain an integrated seniority list (ISL). As mentioned in that announcement, it was clearly understood that prior to final agreement, the document would be subject to review and approval by our respective legal and management teams.
As part of that review process, both our outside and ALPA counsel have expressed concern over portions of language formulated during the final session of talks on Thursday. We believe these concerns should be addressed, and we look forward to working further with our counterparts at SWAPA to draft language with which all Parties will be satisfied.
In Service,
Your ATN Merger Committee
03-10-2011, 03:11 PM
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hmmm.....
"Executive Blog - March 10, 2011
From your president, Steve Chase
Good Afternoon SWAPA Pilots,
Last week ALPA and SWAPA jointly announced we had reached consensus and had drafted a mutually beneficial Process Agreement for the SLI talks going forward, which we gladly did. However, late yesterday through an ALPA Communication to their membership, SWAPA learned that ALPA’s Legal Counsel is now expressing “concerns” over portions of the language inserted within the Process Agreement.
Ironically, the very language for which ALPA is now expressing concern is the same language that they themselves inserted within the Process Agreement back in December."
From your president, Steve Chase
Good Afternoon SWAPA Pilots,
Last week ALPA and SWAPA jointly announced we had reached consensus and had drafted a mutually beneficial Process Agreement for the SLI talks going forward, which we gladly did. However, late yesterday through an ALPA Communication to their membership, SWAPA learned that ALPA’s Legal Counsel is now expressing “concerns” over portions of the language inserted within the Process Agreement.
Ironically, the very language for which ALPA is now expressing concern is the same language that they themselves inserted within the Process Agreement back in December."
03-10-2011, 04:28 PM
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This truly should be the easiest part of this process! And its now taken nearly 6 months...and ALPA still can't nail down their own language.
Apparently, language which they inserted months ago is just now not passing the smell test for their attorneys.
If the ALPA Merger Committee can't handle the task of negotiating, maybe they should just send their attorneys to talk with our SWAPA NC.
I can only imagine how the actual process of negotiating SLI is going to get drawn out. Even with a process agreement, it seems ALPA will find ways to stretch the timeline.
Apparently, language which they inserted months ago is just now not passing the smell test for their attorneys.
If the ALPA Merger Committee can't handle the task of negotiating, maybe they should just send their attorneys to talk with our SWAPA NC.
I can only imagine how the actual process of negotiating SLI is going to get drawn out. Even with a process agreement, it seems ALPA will find ways to stretch the timeline.
03-10-2011, 04:33 PM
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Its actually a bit amusing to me that this process of negotiating Process is taking so much time.
AirTran ALPA talks about the strong, firm language in their Section 1. Particularly the part about the 18 months for seperate ops, which they say must be adhered to. They say 18 months is more than enough time to fully integrate the operations of two airlines. They are now stretching the process of negotiating Process to nearly 1/3 of the time they think SWA should be able to fully integrate.
AirTran ALPA talks about the strong, firm language in their Section 1. Particularly the part about the 18 months for seperate ops, which they say must be adhered to. They say 18 months is more than enough time to fully integrate the operations of two airlines. They are now stretching the process of negotiating Process to nearly 1/3 of the time they think SWA should be able to fully integrate.
03-10-2011, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mastercraft
Its actually a bit amusing to me that this process of negotiating Process is taking so much time.
AirTran ALPA talks about the strong, firm language in their Section 1. Particularly the part about the 18 months for seperate ops, which they say must be adhered to. They say 18 months is more than enough time to fully integrate the operations of two airlines. They are now stretching the process of negotiating Process to nearly 1/3 of the time they think SWA should be able to fully integrate.
AirTran ALPA talks about the strong, firm language in their Section 1. Particularly the part about the 18 months for seperate ops, which they say must be adhered to. They say 18 months is more than enough time to fully integrate the operations of two airlines. They are now stretching the process of negotiating Process to nearly 1/3 of the time they think SWA should be able to fully integrate.
Do you really think we started negotiating the process agreement the date of the announcement? It hasn't been six months. Relax Francis.
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