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aa73 04-25-2011 05:44 AM

I have flown with many pilots at AA that flew nothing but night freight turboprops and made the jump. It is very possible.

FlyJSH 04-25-2011 06:36 AM

Make sure your resume and cover letter include your goal of getting passengers to sign up for credit cards.... that should help.

FlyZ 04-25-2011 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 985180)
Yes. Every Southwest pilot will tell you how worried they are that they are making too much money. They lay awake at night figuring out how to lower their paychecks so the company won't lose its historical cost advantage.

Thankfully, we have ALPA making sure that the Delta pilots are never confronted with that terrible dilemma.

NICE! And dead on.

A320fan 04-25-2011 09:33 AM

The 135 company I'm looking at is also single-pilot IFR turbine, but they hire guys with less than 1200TT as FO's, and upgrade them to CA when they hit it. Also, if what I hear from my friend who works there is true, the attrition will move so fast that pilots who upgrade can be training CA's in their first year as PIC. So there's also some multi-crew experience there too, in addition to the TPIC time. In about 3-5 years, how do you guys think this kind of time will sit with the majors?

iaflyer 04-25-2011 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by A320fan (Post 985289)
The 135 company I'm looking at is also single-pilot IFR turbine, but they hire guys with less than 1200TT as FO's, and upgrade them to CA when they hit it. Also, if what I hear from my friend who works there is true, the attrition will move so fast that pilots who upgrade can be training CA's in their first year as PIC. So there's also some multi-crew experience there too, in addition to the TPIC time. In about 3-5 years, how do you guys think this kind of time will sit with the majors?

I spent many years in the freight business before going to Delta. I went from turbo-prop to jet to heavy jet, all freight. There are two problems to building your time in the freight world, from what I saw. 1) You don't build time fast. I was in the on-demand world, so I was doing 400-500 a year. You'll get there eventually, but the commuter guys are going 900+ a year. If you're at a place where you fly a lot, not a problem. 2) There are very few people who make the move from small freight operators to the majors, so you have little chance of making contacts and networking. Which incidentally, is important these days with lots of people applying. If I hadn't gotten to know furloughed DAL guys at my last job, I might still be there. Don't underestimate the power of Letters of Recommendation.

DassaultFalcon 04-25-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 985300)
I spent many years in the freight business before going to Delta. I went from turbo-prop to jet to heavy jet, all freight. There are two problems to building your time in the freight world, from what I saw. 1) You don't build time fast. I was in the on-demand world, so I was doing 400-500 a year. You'll get there eventually, but the commuter guys are going 900+ a year. If you're at a place where you fly a lot, not a problem. 2) There are very few people who make the move from small freight operators to the majors, so you have little chance of making contacts and networking. Which incidentally, is important these days with lots of people applying. If I hadn't gotten to know furloughed DAL guys at my last job, I might still be there. Don't underestimate the power of Letters of Recommendation.

This is exactly the spot that I'm in - I'm on the falcon and annual flight time is definitely lower than say at a regional.

JetMonkey 04-25-2011 10:48 AM

A guy in my 04 AWA class came from flying King Air's Part 135. It happens.

iaflyer 04-25-2011 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by DassaultFalcon (Post 985318)
This is exactly the spot that I'm in - I'm on the falcon and annual flight time is definitely lower than say at a regional.

I was at JUS for a while, got my Falcon 20 time there.

One way to stand out from the thousands applying is to become a check airman, IOE instructor, sim instructor or something like that.

sailingfun 04-25-2011 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 985157)
Nothing like a little unrequested ALPA shilling.

It was a direct response to the post telling him to apply to SW.

Carl Spackler 04-25-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 985437)
It was a direct response to the post telling him to apply to SW.

Since accuracy has never been your forte, exactly what post told him to apply to SW?

Carl


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