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Old 06-02-2011, 04:10 PM
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So if you never work, you will live forever?
No...You will become President.

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Old 06-03-2011, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL View Post
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Thanks for posting that. That being said I still hope that many consider taking an "early" retirement before 65 and enjoy many years of retirement and health. I'm not yet 50 and find the work is constanly interfering with my leisure activities and interests. I hope our next contract provides a standard of compensation and benefits that gives us the ability to financially retire at 60 as the norm.
I'm younger than you and find that work interferes with getting 8 hours of sleep on an overnight, but hopefully the new FT/DT limits will fix that.

Looking at the chart, 55 is a nice goal but realistically 60 is the number with 62 probably being reality, unfortunately. There is no way I plan to stay long enough for my age to equal my golf score!
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Old 06-03-2011, 06:42 AM
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Funny that people never show the data from the chart for the guys that retire later. The 66 yr old to 80 yr old timeframe is tough, after 80 you can expect to die any day.

66.2/66.1
67.2/65.6
67.2/65.3
68.2/65.2
69.2/65.2

70.2/65.3
71.2/65.6
72.3/66.1
73.3/66.8
74.3/67.9
75.3/69.3
76.3/71.8
77.3/74.5
78.3/76.8
79.3/78.5
80.3/80.0

81.3/81.4
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83.3/83.2
84.3/83.9
85.3/84.6
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87.3/86.0
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by carl spackler View Post
no...you will become president.

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Old 06-03-2011, 12:58 PM
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Next time I'm a Boeing employee in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, I'll take that data into consideration.

Any data that considers professional pilots?
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Old 06-03-2011, 01:29 PM
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I've always wondered why ALPA National doesn't keep track of "what kills Pilots" both before and after they retire, and how long they live into retirement if they fly to age 60 (65 now). I witnessed a run of about 5 senior Captains who all died of brain cancer either just before or just after age 60 all in one year, about 10 years ago.

That's when I started asking why are we not provided with accurate info on what kills pilots. I even called National about it and I was told they cannot keep track of pilots after they retire because their medical info is "Private".

Now, back in the 1960's all the way up until the time they stopped allowing smoking on airplanes (1990?) most of the Capt.s I knew smoked quite a bit, and drank quite a bit more than the guys I fly with today, and ate like pigs on a layover of course. I'm sure that was not good for longevity, but I'd still like to know the real numbers and know exactly what are the most common killers of pilots, before and after retirement, see if we are any different than the general population, even more so after hearing all this Cell Phone use = Brain Cancer stuff lately.
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
I've always wondered why ALPA National doesn't keep track of "what kills Pilots" both before and after they retire, and how long they live into retirement if they fly to age 60 (65 now). I witnessed a run of about 5 senior Captains who all died of brain cancer either just before or just after age 60 all in one year, about 10 years ago.

That's when I started asking why are we not provided with accurate info on what kills pilots. I even called National about it and I was told they cannot keep track of pilots after they retire because their medical info is "Private".

Now, back in the 1960's all the way up until the time they stopped allowing smoking on airplanes (1990?) most of the Capt.s I knew smoked quite a bit, and drank quite a bit more than the guys I fly with today, and ate like pigs on a layover of course. I'm sure that was not good for longevity, but I'd still like to know the real numbers and know exactly what are the most common killers of pilots, before and after retirement, see if we are any different than the general population, even more so after hearing all this Cell Phone use = Brain Cancer stuff lately.
You think ALPA wants any info to coerce guys to retire earlier? Where will all the money come from?
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:06 AM
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The only time alpa would lose money is if the company eliminated positions.

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Old 06-05-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble View Post
You think ALPA wants any info to coerce guys to retire earlier? Where will all the money come from?
Retired pilots don't pay dues. So, who cares.
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Old 06-06-2011, 06:30 AM
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Retired pilots don't pay dues. So, who cares.
1000 (round number) pilots at the top tier scale at 2%, or 1000 pilots in the same seat, but at the 10-12 year scale at 2%. Which yields more cash?
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